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    FFI With all White Mages

    You've heard it talked about incessantly, and you've heard me chime in with "thieves is harder!" Well, ponder that question no more! I am playing with all White Mages (and confirming for all of those who had any doubt my lack of a life). So far, I'm getting a very strong sense that Thieves was indeed harder, but we'll see if the latter parts of the game get worse. I know the very beginning was worse for WMs, but once you learn Ruse with everybody it gets much easier than Thieves.

    Further, I will have bragging rights beyond what I ever could have imagined. I will post again with updates on my progress.

    Currently, I am in Elfland leveling up. I am at level 4. With thieves, I could never have leveled up here; the creeps would've torn me apart, but with Ruse it's actually quite doable to fight groups of Ogres and Creeps.
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    You've beaten my "having no life record", but by only a few hairs. Any chance of posting a clip on youtube to confirm the validity of your victory?

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    I'm afraid I don't have much of a means of recording it. For this one I'm using an emulator (you'll have to take my word for it that I'm not using the "save state" function or using frameskip for leveling up) so I can get a screenshot of the end of the final boss battle. I beat it with all thieves on the NES, and I don't even know if that game is still saved on the cartridge.

    Oh, and I beat it with all black belts last semester.

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    yeah just Prt_Scrn and you should be good for a ending pic

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    At the risk of sounding like a pedantic asshole, calling "pix or it didn't happen" on FF1 is pretty unnecessary. He's proved his expertise many times over on FFS. I think he's been here long enough that we can take his word on things of this nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyanCyde View Post
    At the risk of sounding like a pedantic asshole, calling "pix or it didn't happen" on FF1 is pretty unnecessary. He's proved his expertise many times over on FFS. I think he's been here long enough that we can take his word on things of this nature.
    there you go jumping the shark, I was merely seeing if he could post it on youtube for the rest of us to see.

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    Yeah, I could tell he only wanted to see sort of what it looked like. I mean, even when you believe something happened, you still want to see it with your own eyes.

    I'm at level 5 right now fighting east of Pravoka. Geists get their asses raped, but enemies other than that (GrOgres, Arachnids) give me trouble. This is the most tedious part of the game.

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    My last team composed of a Warrior, White Mage, Ninja, and Red Mage all to face Chaos, I haven't tried it again since my first play through. After checking this thread i'm interested to start a new game with a different variety

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    If you had the Warrior class, does that mean you were playing DOS or Origins? In either case, the game is much easier to beat than the NES version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF1WithAllThieves View Post
    If you had the Warrior class, does that mean you were playing DOS or Origins? In either case, the game is much easier to beat than the NES version.
    I bought origins back when they were barely re-releasing I-VI on their greatest hits series, I also snagged Xenogears along with them I still had difficulty with the PS1 version, but not nearly as much as with FFII.

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    I suck at FF classic, is FFI the one where they level up weapons and skills? Or is it the one where the main characters are named after their job?
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    FFII is the one where you level up skills; FFI is the one where your characters are completely nameless and faceless and you simply choose their character class and names so that you can tell them apart. They have no individuality other than their abilities, so my characters have no individuality at all.

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    I believe this deserves a double post:

    I just got class change!

    Man, there were some pretty awesome battles. And by awesome I mean time-consuming. Against Astos, I muted him and cast Ruse on myself multiple times, so he literally never did any damage to me or had any kind of effect at all. But it took me 11 minutes to kill him.

    And the Vampire and Lich were undead, so they were toast.

    The Ice Cave was not fun; I died repeatedly against Mages using Rub, as well as Cockatrices turning my characters into stone. I came out of the dungeon with a dead person and a stoned person, but I made it.

    Castle of Ordeals wasn't too bad, but I ran into shitty luck a couple of times (Sorcerors).

    So my next objective is to level up some more, then actually beat the Gurgu Volcano (which I skipped temporarily, if you noticed).

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    If I remember correctly I skitted through Tiamat's Dungeon by the skin of my teeth

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    As you can see, I have achieved victory. I levelled up to 30, which gave me 4 level 8 spells per person, which was enough to take down Chaos. Tiamat the second time was tough, since I couldn't use the Bane Sword, but I went and got the Masmune and gave it to Wilt and won with physical attacks (something I never thought I'd do after Astos).

    My official conclusion: all thieves is a SHITLOAD harder than all white mages, and anybody that thinks otherwise is simply ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF1WithAllThieves View Post
    I believe this deserves a double post:

    I came out of the dungeon with a dead person and a stoned person, but I made it.
    Sounds like a solid victory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FF1WithAllThieves View Post
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    As you can see, I have achieved victory. I levelled up to 30, which gave me 4 level 8 spells per person, which was enough to take down Chaos. Tiamat the second time was tough, since I couldn't use the Bane Sword, but I went and got the Masmune and gave it to Wilt and won with physical attacks (something I never thought I'd do after Astos).

    My official conclusion: all thieves is a SHITLOAD harder than all white mages, and anybody that thinks otherwise is simply ignorant.
    Congratulations! And extra props for playing the old school version as well

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    Of course I played the old school version. Any newer version would be way the hell too easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF1WithAllThieves View Post
    You've heard it talked about incessantly, and you've heard me chime in with "thieves is harder!" Well, ponder that question no more! I am playing with all White Mages (and confirming for all of those who had any doubt my lack of a life). So far, I'm getting a very strong sense that Thieves was indeed harder, but we'll see if the latter parts of the game get worse. I know the very beginning was worse for WMs, but once you learn Ruse with everybody it gets much easier than Thieves.

    Further, I will have bragging rights beyond what I ever could have imagined. I will post again with updates on my progress.

    Currently, I am in Elfland leveling up. I am at level 4. With thieves, I could never have leveled up here; the creeps would've torn me apart, but with Ruse it's actually quite doable to fight groups of Ogres and Creeps.


    I'm sure It can not be done with out cheats. At first you may get a few levels but later levels you won't be able to do it.

    I never once used a thief or monk


    I only used fighter, Red-Black and white mage in these combos.


    Fighter, Fighter, White, Black

    Fighter, White, Black, Black
    Fighter, Red, White, Black
    Fighter, White, White, Black (pretty long fights against non undead)


    EDIT ADD

    I still stand by my white mages comment but I willa dmit I never tried all white mages. Does the game actualy change some to fit your choice?


    Also have you ever killed the fire elemental last before going to the ruined temple? I have.. I'm sure you have tried
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shively
    I'm sure It can not be done with out cheats. At first you may get a few levels but later levels you won't be able to do it.
    Congratulations, you clearly don't know jack about the game. Quite an auspicious first post...

    FF1, I missed the thread when you actually beat Chaos, so I'll congratulate you now. Congrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyanCyde View Post
    Congratulations, you clearly don't know jack about the game. Quite an auspicious first post...

    FF1, I missed the thread when you actually beat Chaos, so I'll congratulate you now. Congrats!
    I beat Chaos many times, first time when I was 15 years old. That was oh back arround 1993 I think?

    Sorry but I just was never attracted to a full party of white mages, perhaps it could be done but I just did not find it likely.

    About the first post part, I mainly came to open a FTP share up in your media section but was not sure if it was allowed since all I saw was links TO music instead of someone actualy sharing.



    Now, have you beaten Lich Kraken Tiamat Kary in that order?

    Also I will agree the updated version on Playstation sucks compared to original except I sorta like the fast walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shively View Post
    I beat Chaos many times, first time when I was 15 years old. That was oh back arround 1993 I think?

    Sorry but I just was never attracted to a full party of white mages, perhaps it could be done but I just did not find it likely.

    About the first post part, I mainly came to open a FTP share up in your media section but was not sure if it was allowed since all I saw was links TO music instead of someone actualy sharing.



    Now, have you beaten Lich Kraken Tiamat Kary in that order?

    Also I will agree the updated version on Playstation sucks compared to original except I sorta like the fast walk.
    Wow I was 9 in 1993

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    I will admit to never using a thief or monk... WHY I don't know but I think it might have been something to do with being WAY TOO into to swords and wanting characters that did magic or used swords.

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    WOW i actually thought that the hardest team to use were the 4 white mages, i think i can rest in peace now im really looking forward for the thieves team !! keep the effort!

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    wow not bad at all congrats....I've done the 4 white mages thing as well got closer to lvl 40 at the end though, and i can vouch that it isn't THAT incredibly difficult, however four thieves I shall try that sometime thanks for pointing tat out I would never of thought about 4 theives.

    actually wanna do another one and get a pic of you beating chaos with 4 theives......that would be cool

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