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    It really depends on which aspect of the game you look.

    As far the story goes, it was quite terrible. The barely noticable connection with FFX and the hunt for "him" really sucked big time. I disliked Yuna as a pop star (ish?) and the way they were dressed using the various dress spheres was rather slutty. These things kinda made you wonder if you actually were playing a FF game.

    But on to the goods. I loved the gameplay. The Dress Sphere system was quite awesome, combined with the Sphere Grids and accessories you had quite alot of freedom to customize your characters as your heart disired. I missed the option to change your weapons/armor, but it wasn't really needed I supose. There's quite a few neat mini games and there was Sphere Break.

    I liked the mission/chapter based system to progress through the game, and the new game plus added something new to the game. Though it could make a new game ridiculously easy (not that the game itself wasn't easy enough), but you could chose not to use your uber equipment a new game, and the better skills use more mana than you have at the start of the game. So it does balance out.

    One thing I really really didn't like, to get a 100% you have to do some stupidly tiny details RIGHT or you'll just screw up your chance to get the perfect ending. Sure I don't mind having to go through some trouble to get to that point, but randomly press X four times during a cut scene for example, is really one of those things that makes you cry out.

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    If they added some more time in X to get tidus back then did a whole new game about lenne and shuyin it might have worked
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    my opinion: i do think ffx is better than ffx-2, maybe its the fact that i expected more from the sequel but found the first one is pretty much the better one and got dissatisfied.

    and as for characters..i got so attached to tidus and yuna..didnt pay much attention to shuyin and lenne

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    and as for characters..i got so attached to tidus and yuna..didnt pay much attention to shuyin and lenne
    Sheesh, do you get attached to ALL of the FF charecters?


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    IMO FFX-2 didnt live up to alot of expectations for me. It wasnt in my top five rankings but i still played it through and got 100% (the second time round). I enjoyed moreso the new approach by Square, the ATB system, dress spheres etc; all this kind of compensated for what was IMO a not-so-great narative.

    In all the game was okay, but if i could change anything, i would make it longer and abit harder. 7/10 from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Master View Post
    Sheesh, do you get attached to ALL of the FF charecters?

    not all...i get attached to the ones i like most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavka View Post
    OK, it wasn't as good as say, X or XII, but in my opinion, it wasn't a dreadful game. While I'm willing to admit the plot was a little loose (Shuyin was one of the worst villains ever) and the dressphere/ability system wasn't as in depth as it could've been, I feel the game did what it was intended to do, that is, be a light-hearted sequel to FFX that focused on Yuna, with a moderately interesting plot of its own...
    I think another reason could have something to do with the game play. I've heard some complaints like "zomg no summons!?". Another complaint I've heard was "it's just a Final Fantasy copy of Charlies Angels" (that may be true, but that's a weak reason to dislike the game imo).

    It isn't my favorite Final Fantasy, but not the worst I've ever played either. I guess you could say I didn't like the fact that you couldn't name your main character. Why would they be calling it an RPG/Role Playing Game if you can no longer name your characters?

    I do admit that the new characters were cool imo (Paine, Nooj, Baralai, and Gippal).
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    None of them are real RPGs. Naming a character doesn't make a game one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prak View Post
    None of them are real RPGs. Naming a character doesn't make a game one.

    How come none of them are real RPGs? Is it just because they're not Dungeons and Dragons etc.? I've also heard another critic of Final Fantasy or video game RPGs not being RPGs just because they aren't D & D or on paper, or not the very first ones to come out, blah blah blah .

    I'm just curious is all.

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    this game actually is good!the storyline wise but i have to admit the battle system was not really loved by me ...but yuna returnd to tidus!!which really make me happy i mean i dont like unhappy ending in ffx

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    Quote Originally Posted by swordie View Post
    this game actually is good!the storyline wise but i have to admit the battle system was not really loved by me ...but yuna returnd to tidus!!which really make me happy i mean i dont like unhappy ending in ffx

    Now isn't that only if you complete all the sidequest missions in the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifa Rinoa View Post
    Now isn't that only if you complete all the sidequest missions in the game?

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    thx 4 the warm welcome!!! not really you dont really need 100% juz 80% if i am not wrong.....100% just an additional cut scene

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    People say FFX-2 is a terrible game. Because it is. Simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby Boink View Post
    People say FFX-2 is a terrible game. Because it is. Simple as that.
    Wow. That's a weak reason o__0.

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    What does the box art look like in America? In Britain it's just a white background with Final Fantasy X-2 on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavka View Post
    What does the box art look like in America? In Britain it's just a white background with Final Fantasy X-2 on it.
    Google it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifa Rinoa View Post
    Wow. That's a weak reason o__0.
    I dont have to give a reason, The game lacked a decent story line, Any sort of structure to it. They Dress spheres made no sense, Given that the previous Game Yuna was a priss who if you follwed her Sphere grid right could obliterate someone with magical attacks and keep a party alive, But couldn knock the spots of a dalmation with her crappy attack stats. All of a sudden she can be trained in god knows how many sort of abilities, Same goes for Rikku. She should have retained the mix ability for herself alone, Its what made her unique, She has nothing in this game.

    The Dark Aeons had no reason to be in there again, Cause you either killed them in the first one or knew they existed. Like Ifrit for example, He magically got from the Bikanel Desert to Kilika temple I believe? Without anyone noticing it or him damaging anything, I find that hard to believe!

    There was so many things in that game that were beyond explanation.
    Another one, How did Leblanc happen to become the new resident of what used to be the grand Maesters house in Guado Salam, The story line FFX so nicely built up FFX-2 pissed all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby Boink View Post
    People say FFX-2 is a terrible game. Because it is. Simple as that.
    I think people like you are probably the reason Prak defends X-2 and I agree with him.

    EDIT: Just saw your second post, but okay, let's see...

    I dont have to give a reason, The game lacked a decent story line, Any sort of structure to it. They Dress spheres made no sense, Given that the previous Game Yuna was a priss who if you follwed her Sphere grid right could obliterate someone with magical attacks and keep a party alive, But couldn knock the spots of a dalmation with her crappy attack stats. All of a sudden she can be trained in god knows how many sort of abilities, Same goes for Rikku. She should have retained the mix ability for herself alone, Its what made her unique, She has nothing in this game.
    First of all, Final Fantasy games will always have different battle/ability systems even if they are of the same universe. And even if they must be similar, there's gotta be some change made. And keep in mind, Yuna, Rikku and all the survived FFX main characters retired and rested a lot between FFX and the events of X-2, and didn't engage in battle for a while. So, waking up a year later it's time to start over. Also in X they didn't have levels. Besides that, in EVERY final fantasy game when you apply the ability systems to real life scenarios, they ALWAYS defy logic. I suppose they just decided to start over and this time they gained more common sense and decided to branch out more rather than stick to one class.
    The only thing I agree with you in the above statement is that niether Yuna, Rikku, nor Paine had any sort of uniqueness to them in what they could do that the others couldn't, with the exceptions of special dressspheres which were never used and two other dressspheres which are both hidden and you're almost done with the game by the time you get them, but throughout the game, anyone can do anything and there were no limit breaks, which was kinda lame.

    The Dark Aeons had no reason to be in there again, Cause you either killed them in the first one or knew they existed. Like Ifrit for example, He magically got from the Bikanel Desert to Kilika temple I believe? Without anyone noticing it or him damaging anything, I find that hard to believe!
    First of all I've never played the version with the dark Aeons, and seeing as they're only in one version they're obviously not that important to the story. So, either they're not the same dark Aeons, or it's supposed to be as if they were never there. And almost every game involves monsters/bosses that defy logic.

    There was so many things in that game that were beyond explanation.
    Another one, How did Leblanc happen to become the new resident of what used to be the grand Maesters house in Guado Salam, The story line FFX so nicely built up FFX-2 pissed all over.
    That's easy. Guadosalam was abandoned by the Guado. Not just fled, abandoned, meaning anything there was pretty much up for grabs, which is how it became a "hangout" for sphere hunters. The Grand Maesters didn't matter anymore, no one cared, nothing Yevon-related mattered anymore. It would have been sacreligious to claim that house for herself, but it's just like turning Djose temple into a machina workshop. Dunno why her and not anyone else, not like she deserves it, but I guess we can assume she was one of the first Sphere Hunters there. Plus, she's rich. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak6009 View Post
    I think people like you are probably the reason Prak defends X-2 and I agree with him.
    I never have a debate with Prak as I dont see the point, We both know each others takes on games and respect them.
    EDIT: Just saw your second post, but okay, let's see...



    First of all, Final Fantasy games will always have different battle/ability systems even if they are of the same universe. And even if they must be similar, there's gotta be some change made. And keep in mind, Yuna, Rikku and all the survived FFX main characters retired and rested a lot between FFX and the events of X-2, and didn't engage in battle for a while. So, waking up a year later it's time to start over. Also in X they didn't have levels. Besides that, in EVERY final fantasy game when you apply the ability systems to real life scenarios, they ALWAYS defy logic. I suppose they just decided to start over and this time they gained more common sense and decided to branch out more rather than stick to one class.
    The only thing I agree with you in the above statement is that niether Yuna, Rikku, nor Paine had any sort of uniqueness to them in what they could do that the others couldn't, with the exceptions of special dressspheres which were never used and two other dressspheres which are both hidden and you're almost done with the game by the time you get them, but throughout the game, anyone can do anything and there were no limit breaks, which was kinda lame.
    I am not looking at it from a logical point of view. If I were to do that I wouldn have this discussion because 3 women turning in to a host of creatures and a machine is beyond logic. My argument point was, That with FFX each person had a specific reason for being there. Yuna for Aeons, Lulu Black Magic, Wakka to hit the flying things etc etc. On this one Rikku and Yuna have lost their reasons for being in the game, Yunas is understandable having killed her Aeons and all. But Rikku had no reason to lose the abilities she had. On this one its just a mish Mash of whatever the hell you like, Basically you could choose three heavy warriors one Dies and oh lets quickly switch save their lives and switch back again. They tried to cram to much in to three characters.


    First of all I've never played the version with the dark Aeons, and seeing as they're only in one version they're obviously not that important to the story. So, either they're not the same dark Aeons, or it's supposed to be as if they were never there. And almost every game involves monsters/bosses that defy logic.
    Again not from a logical point of view. They just lack the ability to explain and expand the story line to allow these things to make sense.

    That's easy. Guadosalam was abandoned by the Guado. Not just fled, abandoned, meaning anything there was pretty much up for grabs, which is how it became a "hangout" for sphere hunters. The Grand Maesters didn't matter anymore, no one cared, nothing Yevon-related mattered anymore. It would have been sacreligious to claim that house for herself, but it's just like turning Djose temple into a machina workshop. Dunno why her and not anyone else, not like she deserves it, but I guess we can assume she was one of the first Sphere Hunters there. Plus, she's rich. :P
    Ill concede this point as I forgot the Guado Ran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby Boink View Post
    I dont have to give a reason, The game lacked a decent story line, Any sort of structure to it. They Dress spheres made no sense, Given that the previous Game Yuna was a priss who if you follwed her Sphere grid right could obliterate someone with magical attacks and keep a party alive, But couldn knock the spots of a dalmation with her crappy attack stats. All of a sudden she can be trained in god knows how many sort of abilities, Same goes for Rikku. She should have retained the mix ability for herself alone, Its what made her unique, She has nothing in this game.

    The Dark Aeons had no reason to be in there again, Cause you either killed them in the first one or knew they existed. Like Ifrit for example, He magically got from the Bikanel Desert to Kilika temple I believe? Without anyone noticing it or him damaging anything, I find that hard to believe!

    There was so many things in that game that were beyond explanation.
    Another one, How did Leblanc happen to become the new resident of what used to be the grand Maesters house in Guado Salam, The story line FFX so nicely built up FFX-2 pissed all over.

    Well you just did give your reasons and props to you for providing a much better arguement *claps*.

    However in the previous game, I do remember Yuna doing just fine by herself despite her attacks. All you had to do was use her summoning skills to summon a monster fresh outta the oven and she did superb. Also considering the fact that during the part in Bevelle you have to use Yuna by herself for a short period of time which should prove that.

    As for the dress spheres, you can't really say Yuna got suddenly good considering the fact that it has been two years and even just two years can change someone and make one matured and smarter if you know what I mean.

    The Dark Aeons matching the story line from the previous FFX made sense, but I understand what you mean about how it could make no logical sense of Ifrit getting from Bikanel dessert to Kilika Temple.

    You did at least make a better and stronger arguement than your last post and much more kudos to you for that.

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