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    2020 Final Fantasy Rumble Qualifiers

    It's now time for one of my favorite parts of the annual game: the qualification stage for next year. It's an opportunity to hear some lesser known but still impressive tracks from the series, and it's a chance to decide who will and will not be surfacing for the competition this time a year from now.

    FFShriners get unique say in the qualifications; I don't share them with my off-site voters. Everyone is welcome to vote, but if it seems like a lot at once don't feel obligated to participate. I see this as a more casual thing, and (most of it) remains open year round. For whatever it's worth, I like to consider a whole range of reasons--to bring back my favorite tracks, certainly, but also to give less common fair an occasional shot in the main game, to ensure comprehensive representation (FF1 must qualify a track in order to appear in 2020), in general just to keep it interesting from my perspective. You can vote for as many or as few entries as you wish. You can wait until next year and see how you feel about them at more of a distance. Just have fun with it:

    The qualification round will remain open until April 2020.

    Tracks which did not appear in 2019 will always win a tie.

    If you wish to change a vote, please do so in a new post. I will be updating my list as votes are cast, so an edit will likely be missed.

    2019 losers will always be listed first and paired with tracked that did not appear this year. As with the round of 128, no two tracks will ever face each other twice in the main qualification round.


    Pre-Quals: In order to expand the game further, I added a second tier of qualifications last year. This will allow the game to continue to grow without having to permanently remove any entries. Losers of last year's pre-quals and new entries will square off new entries against the historically lowest performing tracks. Winning these matches only guarantees appearance in the subsequent main qualification round. Voting for this stage opens now and will remain open until the 2019 game ends, at which point I'll post the main round, which is 52 matches all at once. If you would like to propose further new entries, do so now, with sufficient time for them to be voted on before the main game ends. Note that the cap for a single game is currently 16, meaning I won't accept additional FF8 tracks and FF4, 6, and 7 are capped at one additional entry.

    New this year: Tracks that joined us in the third run of this game have had their chance and are now susceptible to pre-quals.

    Pre-Qualifications round:
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF13, never qualified) vs [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF13, 0)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF13, 1) vs [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF13, 2)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF11, never qualified) vs [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF10, 2)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF13, 1) vs [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF12, 3)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF11, never qualified) vs [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF10, new entry)
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    Pre-Qualifications round

    Primarch Dysley (FF13, never qualified)
    Taejin's Tower (FF13, 2)
    Between Ordeals (FF10, 2)
    Rebellion (FF12, 3)
    The Federation of Windur (FF11, never qualified)

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    Primarch Dysley
    In the Sky That Night
    Between Ordeals
    Desperate Struggle
    Challenge - always loved this song, it's a travesty it's not in the game already!
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    Primarch Dysley (FF13, never qualified)
    In the Sky That Night (FF13, 1)
    Rolanberry Fields (FF11, never qualified)
    Desperate Struggle (FF13, 1)
    Challenge (FF10, new entry) ~~Windur has had a long series of difficult rands. Unfortunate. Better luck next year; I'm still taking Challenge.
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    Pre-Qualifications round:
    Primarch Dysley (FF13, never qualified)
    Taejin's Tower (FF13, 2)
    Between Ordeals (FF10, 2)
    Desperate Struggle (FF13, 1)
    Challenge (FF10, new entry) - Ditto the previous comments

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    Now that I'm playing the game, I should probably correct the inaccurate track title I've been using for half a decade. It's Windurst.

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    Pre-Qualifications round:
    Primarch Dysley (FF13, never qualified)
    In the Sky That Night (FF13, 1) <-- i'm a sucker for masashi's tunes - reminds me lots of saga songs, and i love the light-hearted tunes he makes.
    Rolanberry Fields (FF11, never qualified)
    Rebellion (FF12, 3)
    The Federation of Windurst (FF11, never qualified) <-- bittersweet

    There's some bittersweet choices there.
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    Think I'm going to change my vote to Windurst actually. Having now explored all four major cities of the original launch, it was my favorite location by far, and I think the music really brought it to further life more convincingly than the others.

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    yeah boi, fishing at windursstttt. windurst was where my merchant were at too.

    Just adding, cause I need to give the XIV player base some encouragement here.

    The last expansion Stormblood undoubtedly had some very good music. I find myself coming back to the soundtrack quite often for it's general sense of continuance, much in the same way I can listen to other final fantasy tracks. I won't say which ones are my favourites at the moment, but hoping that sometime in the future there would be more tracks to this game. The latest expansion comes out tonight and sure there'll be some far more varied tunes to that expansion as well.
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    Pre-Qual. Round
    Primarch Dysley (FF13, never qualified)
    In the Sky That Night (FF13, 1)
    Between Ordeals (FF10, 2)
    Rebellion (FF12, 3)
    The Federation of Windurst (FF11, never qualified)

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    Cool, I'll pair these up hopefully tomorrow. We should maybe think about whether we want to include just Aria di Mezzo Carattere or the whole opera sequence as one piece similar to Dancing Mad.

    Also I'm probably going to add Sanctuary of Zi'Tah from FF11 because I just got there and it's great.

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    My reasoning for keeping them separate is that the opera sections are separate tracks in the OST tracklist, while Dancing Mad is one continuous track.

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    New Track Suggestions

    FFXIV - Kugane Day theme
    FFXIV - The Crystarium
    FFXIV - Story Mission Theme

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    Alright, making way for 8 new entries. Bare with me while I think out loud here for a minute

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    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF3, 2)

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    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF1, 2)

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    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF13, 2)

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    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF2, 2)

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    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF13, 3)

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    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF11, 3)

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    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF4, 3)

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    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF14, 4)

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    Cool there weren't any ties to make 8.

    Next on the chopping block would be:
    1. Suteki da ne
    2. Those for the Purge
    3&4 Tied: Out of the Labyrinth, Ashe's Theme
    5. Castle Pandemonium

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    That's going to be especially relevant next year because new tracks get the standard 4-year pre-quals waiver if they can advance out of there in the first place.

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    I guess it's technically a max 3-year waiver since they start there in year 1.

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    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF3, new entry)
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    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF9, new entry)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF11, new entry)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF11, new entry)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF14, new entry)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF14, new entry)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF14, new entry)

    Without counting I'm pretty sure FF6 and FF8 are now capped on maximum entries for a while.

    Pianists, if these FF14 links are not correct try to let me know quick.

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    old tracks rand:
    Spoiler!


    new tracks rand:
    Spoiler!


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    Alright, additional pre-qual pairings! These will be finalized some time around the start of the final round of the present game, so if you want in you've got a week or so.

    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF3, 2) vs [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF3, new entry)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF4, 3) vs [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF11, new entry)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF1, 2) vs [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF11, new entry)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF13, 3) vs [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF14, new entry)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF14, 4) vs [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF14, new entry)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF13, 2) vs [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF14, new entry)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF11, 3) vs [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF6, new entry)
    [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF2, 2) vs [Hidden link. Register to see links.] (FF9, new entry)

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    Prequels

    Tozas Town (FF3, new entry)
    Vana'diel March (FF11, new entry)
    The Sanctuary of Zi'Tah (FF11, new entry)
    Story Mission Theme (FF14, new entry)
    Kugane (Day) (FF14, new entry)
    The Crystarium (FF14, new entry)
    Aria di Mezzo Carattere (FF6, new entry)
    You're Not Alone! (FF9, new entry)

    Edit: No change in vote after PforPianist's update.
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    Tozas Town (FF3, new entry)
    Vana'diel March (FF11, new entry)
    Battle Scene (FF1, 2)
    Story Mission Theme (FF14, new entry)
    Kugane (Day) (FF14, new entry)
    The Crystarium (FF14, new entry)
    Aria di Mezzo Carattere (FF6, new entry)
    You're Not Alone! (FF9, new entry) - this makes me excited!
    Last edited by feralanima; 07-09-2019 at 04:06 AM. Reason: I missed a vote

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    I started digging around for another copy of Crystarium because that one has in-game sfx, and I found completely different tunes sporting the same name on youtube. Gonna need P to confirm on this one. The others seem accurate.

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    Pending that I'll vote all new entries except Aria di Mezzo Carattere (FF6, new entry). Innovative concept for its time, but those synth vocals just aound so cheesy to me now. XD

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    Pre-Qualifications round

    Primarch Dysley
    In the Sky That Night
    Between Ordeals
    Desperate Struggle
    Challenge

    additional pre-qual pairings

    Tozas Town
    Vana'diel March
    The Sanctuary of Zi'Tah
    Lake Bresha
    Kugane (Day)
    The Hanging Edge
    Aria di Mezzo Carattere
    You're Not Alone!

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    Current cap per game: 16
    FF1: 5
    FF2: 5
    FF3: 11
    FF4: 15
    FF5: 13
    FF6: 16
    FF7: 15
    FF8: 16
    FF9: 15
    FF10: 14
    FF11: 14
    FF12: 14
    FF13: 16
    FF14: 16
    FF15: 8

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    That's actually not a bad distribution

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    Additional Pre-Qual. Pairings

    Tozas Town (FF3, new entry)
    Vana'diel March (FF11, new entry)
    The Sanctuary of Zi'Tah (FF11, new entry)
    Story Mission Theme (FF14, new entry)
    Kugane (Day) (FF14, new entry)
    The Crystarium (FF14, new entry)
    Aria di Mezzo Carattere (FF6, new entry)
    You're Not Alone! (FF9, new entry)

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    GOSH there are some crazy tracks in there!

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    Hey P it might have been lost in the wall of text somewhere: can you provide a link to The Crystarium? I'm not convinced the track I linked is correct.

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    yeah sure. let me find it.

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    Edit: I found out there's actually 2 versions.

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    this is the first. The second version has lyrics, which i've never actually heard before (despite playing the game a lot this past week) I would be happy going with the version 1.
    I just included the second one for anyone who likes variations

    Edit: adding my qual selections here.

    Tozas Town (FF3, new entry)
    Vana'diel March (FF11, new entry)
    The Sanctuary of Zi'Tah (FF11, new entry)
    Story Mission Theme (FF14, new entry)
    Kugane (Day) (FF14, new entry)
    The Crystarium (FF14, new entry)
    Aria di Mezzo Carattere (FF6, new entry)
    You're Not Alone! (FF9, new entry)
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    Pre-Qualifications round:

    Primarch Dysley (FF13, never qualified)
    In the Sky That Night (FF13, 1)
    Between Ordeals (FF10, 2)
    Desperate Struggle (FF13, 1)
    The Federation of Windurst (FF11, never qualified) this was seriously tough for a pre-qualification match O_O


    Additional Pre-Qual. Pairings

    Tozas Town (FF3, new entry)
    Vana'diel March (FF11, new entry)
    The Sanctuary of Zi'Tah (FF11, new entry)
    Lake Bresha (FF13, 3)
    Kugane (Day) (FF14, new entry)
    The Crystarium (FF14, new entry)
    Aria di Mezzo Carattere (FF6, new entry)
    You're Not Alone! (FF9, new entry) now I'm retroactively sad that it wasn't participating in the previous ff rumbles xD



    btw What do you guys think about adding Final Fantasy Tactics songs to the rumble?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Szczepan View Post
    btw What do you guys think about adding Final Fantasy Tactics songs to the rumble?
    I'm a big fan of the tactics soundtrack(s). I say soundtracks because it's clear that the original inspires a lot of the tracks in the subsequent games. It's been a while since i listened to the whole soundtrack however... Have done it on multiple occasions because of the european style to them... e.g orchestral, with sweeping melodies. For the actual soundtrack.. I think there are some very notable themes. Thank FFXIV for bringing them back into my consciousness. Ramza's theme, the preparation for the battle music, and the end game themes are all wonderful tracks. All that to say, I think it deserves a few tracks in there. The other obvious question would be, is this a main series title?

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