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    Um just wunt to say one thing prak not to b like gangin up on ya or anything but if the story wasnt all that great then how come everybody loved it over the othwer installments of the series
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    Originally posted by Zack_Strife77
    Um just wunt to say one thing prak not to b like gangin up on ya or anything but if the story wasnt all that great then how come everybody loved it over the othwer installments of the series
    yeah, Zack_Strife77, why, Prak, did everyone love FF7 over all the other FF games if it was crap.

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    *sigh*

    I wanted to avoid this, but since you pressed the issue...

    The climax of the game is sprung on you kind of fast. While that may be acceptable in the context of a game, good pacing for a series demands a bit more time to absorb information.

    That means that some new events have to be fabricated in order to have a final episode of appropriate length without being totally boring or cramming so much in there that it becomes confusing.

    All of Jenova's forms, Bizarro Sephiroth, and Safer Sephiroth would have to be completely redesigned to work in an animation format. Trying to draw the current designs would make any animator alive pull his hair out. And do you really want to see a totally redesigned version of Sephiroth?

    In addition to that, a lot of the story would have to be hacked out, such as anything having to do with Gold Saucer, which would totally break the tone of the show. Dyne would also be out of place because of the length of his backstory. However, without him, Barret's story falls out of focus.

    Then there's the issue of character development. It would be pretty lame if the characters didn't develop a bit further than they did in the game, but that might cause some fans a great deal of distress because it would show sides of their favorite characters they never imagined existed and didn't really want to see.


    As for no story being perfect, that's just a cop-out to excuse the flaws in FFVII's story.

    As for why so many people loved it, it was because it was something different from anything they had ever seen before. It has nostalgia value. It was the first FF game for a great many people, so that adds to the nostalgia.

    A lot of people basically look at the game through the proverbial rose-colored glasses.

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    Right, this is war!

    The climax had to be brought out fast otherwise you would not know that the team is searching for Sephiroth. The brilliant story in Kalm explains this. In an anime, this could be shortened as I agree that the story takes too long to explain in the game, let alone in an anime. Some of the story could be left out, such as some of the Zack/Cloud background as half of the people who play FFVII don't seem to know what happened with them and some people never see all the secret scenes, so it is not actually explained.

    In animes, there will always be things that would have to be redesigned to work in an animation format. The reason that Jenova's forms and sephiroth's forms would have to be redesigned is because they are complex and the graphics designers at squaresoft put in a lot of effort designing them. However they would be able to be altered to fit anime format. I wouldn't see a totally redesigned version of Sephiroth because 1, he wouldn't have to be redesigned, and 2, only the last two boss versions of Sephiroth would be redesigned, not his actual character.

    Gold Saucer would not have to be ruled out because 1, you have to go there in the game and they could shorten the prison scene, but leave in the part about Barret explaining about Dyne. Then he would have a sufficient background. You only hear about Dyne in the game then, and he dies about 10 minutes later, so his background could be altered, to give him a bigger part in an anime FFVII. That way, Barret would not fall out focus.

    I have to go now, so I will resolve this later....

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    This is war? You just conceded, albeit conditionally, to most of my arguments. You acknowledged that heavy changes would be needed to adapt it to an anime.

    And I never once said that Sephiroth's basic design would have to be changed. Just his transformations. Don't take things out of context.

    I will concede that Gold Saucer could be left in, but only if the Happyland atmosphere was thrown out in favor of keeping the mood darkened. But as for Chocobo racing, it would have to go, except for maybe seeing races in the background. The prison thing could be skipped altogether.

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    Okay, I'll add some of my two cents here:

    Most RPG's are like the exact opposite of an anime. Take for instance, the RPG's that have anime cutscenes. Of course if you've seen the show and you play it's game counter part it's going to be different.

    But you've got to remember that RPG's and anime are like the same thing, because allot of the designs in RPG's come from animes.
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    Well this has gotten rather long. I understand there would need to bee re workings of things. But minor changes wouldnt be bad. I mean if they did them right. The whole concept behind doin an anime from a game sounds good but sometimes just wouldnt work. As for finaly fantasy goes putting it into an anime does sound good but with the revisions youve mentioned it might b more work then they would want to put into it. But as you can see while final fantasy has spun off inot a motion picture an an anime they wheren't like the games. Some ppl i know who love the games didnt like the anime or movie. I didnt like the movie at first until i realized that it wasnt based on any particular game much like the anime version of final fantasy. Anywho the whole thing on makeing a Final Fantasy 7 anime would be neat but mayb it could be something different then trying to follow the games story. like mayb something that shows the story before ff7. And show ya how each character developed into what they where in ff7 now these are just some thoughts of mine and sry the post is so long. But trying to base an anime streight from the ff games would make it difficult like you said there would have to be revisions to the story could make it to much in some parts and not enough in other. As for my final thoughts i think a ff7 anime would b awsome if they followed the story they would need to revise it but it could b done but it might come out being harder to get or just make the story seem worse. So theres my bag of change for ya.

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    Sry to bring this up but in AC, does Cloud still luv Aeris or when he sees Tifa hurt in the church he has that look on his face that he likes her. But i read officially that cloud loves aeris and is still mourning and Tifa understands Cloud loves Aeris so she's backing off.

    Please clariffy this plz.
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    LOL peoples this is suppost to be a AC thread not FF7 anime thread go make your own one to argue this out. Thank you Aeris freak for going back on subject! As for your question I don't know for sure but I think Cloud still loves Aeris. That scene in the church i think is when one of the silver haired guys tryed to get marlene (who was in the church with Tifa) and Tifa tried to defend her, failed and got seriously hurt. But that's just what iv'e heard so I don't know if it's true or not.

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    Sry for gettin off topic bout the anime. About Cloud and Tifa and all he cared about both of them while he may still be mounring for aeris he could still have feelings towards tifa couldnt he.

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    gonna close this one down, and start a new one shortly. also gonna try and get a basic ff7ac faq up in the thread itself, to cut down on redundant posts.
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