THE BIG ORCHESTRAL ACTION MUSIC THREAD!

[Sanico]

Originally Posted by 10Arrows

Actually, what is desperately desired (by some of us) is an expanded score (without sfx). I would give up my first born for such, uh, if I had a first born.

Which brings up an interesting point. Has there EVER been an expanded Horner score released on any of his scores?

Krull and Aliens were expanded from a previous soundtrack release.

[Billie781]

Great soundtracks, ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much therefor.

Ahm, i have only one track, enjoy ^^

Elvandia Story OST

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btw, was my japanese and chinese compilation good? Or bad?

[Sirusjr]

:O billienator!!! I am so glad to see that soundtrack!!! I am a huge fan of Noriyuki Iwadare and have never heard that score. Thanks much!!
EDIT: Oh its just one track. Still this is a wonderful piece!! Can i trouble you to post the full soundtrack? I would very much appreciate it :333

[Billie781]

Hehe, you are welcome, i would upload the whole soundtrack, but it takes a while

[Sirusjr]

Originally Posted by Billie781

Hehe, you are welcome, i would upload the whole soundtrack, but it takes a while

OH WAIT!! I have this already......but somehow never listened to it! If others want I can upload it instead to save you some time.

Also Bio, your scores are amazing! I am posting comments about which ones I like on each respective thread.

[Billie781]

Hahaha, okay, thank you very much, you must listen this soundtrack, it is so great X3
here a review to this very enjoyable soundtrack

"Elvandia Story," developed by the company "Spike," is a PlayStation 2 RPG that had no hope of reaching the US. This is a shame, considering the prized composers who worked on this RPG. Noriyuki Iwadare wrote and arranged the extensive (read: long) opening and ending orchestral themes. The rest was done by a famous Konami composer, Norihiko Hibino, who has worked on Metal Gear Solid and Zone of the Enders.

Powerful, somewhat military-march-like orchestra pieces dominate this score. The softest, most airy of melodies come from Iwadare's contribution. As for Hibino, the military-esque music is mixed with a bit of jazz, some "tension theme" music we know and love from MGS, and some surprisingly typical RPG music (that, frankly, I didn't expect Hibino to write). When I say "typical," you know what I mean. Traditional, tonal melodies backed by simple synth emulations of chamber music instruments.

Though I really enjoyed the battle themes, I also loved some of the ambient stuff that Hibino did on this score, particularly in the first few tracks of the album. Everything from track 1 to 7 was solid gold, but then the "filler tracks" dominated for awhile, until (surprise!) near the end.

Don't pick this up simply because it was promoted with Iwadare's name. Only a small portion of this soundtrack is Iwadare. Instead, if you'd like to hear the MGS composer take on a traditional fantasy RPG, you'll definitely be interested. I was happy to hear something slightly different from the norm, though the album is only slightly above average in terms of composition. The sound quality, however, is excellent, which is another reason to consider adding it to the ol' VGM collection.

Reviewed by: Patrick Gann

[Doublehex]

Guys, you have to check this out.

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It is a soundtrack for the video game Demon's Souls. And it is absolutely phenomenal!

You'll be hooked from the Main Theme, I guarantee it. I just may write a review for it (gasp!).

[Sirusjr]

Originally Posted by Doublehex

Guys, you have to check this out.

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It is a soundtrack for the video game Demon's Souls. And it is absolutely phenomenal!

You'll be hooked from the Main Theme, I guarantee it. I just may write a review for it (gasp!).

I second this. I haven't gotten a chance to listen to this version posted yet but form the trailer alone the music was amazing!

[Doublehex]

Originally Posted by Sirusjr

I second this. I haven't gotten a chance to listen to this version posted yet but form the trailer alone the music was amazing!

Oh, I know! I so loved the trailer music that I was *THIS* close to actually converting the YouTube video to an .mp3 so I could listen to it, SFX and all!

[Sirusjr]

Elvandia Story OST - Noriyuki Iwadare (first and last track) and Norihiko Hibino
Orchestral/fantasy/sweeping

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Credit for original rip goes to gamemp3s, who released it in 2007

[Doublehex]

Ok guys, here is something very cool:

A nearly 2 hours interview with Master Goldsmith himself! It talks about his early days at CBS.

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Takes freakin' ever to buffer, though.

[Lens of Truth]

Originally Posted by arthierr

Are you trying to revive the old Goldsmith / Horner fans battle, Lens?

Of course Horner is a renowned plagiarist who stole from many different places. This is a fact and doesn't need to be discussed further. BUT that doesn't affect the fact that he's an exceptional composer, a great melodist, with a very personal style (paradoxically!), and an impressive number of superb achievements. [Edit: I just noticed that when you talk about "cut and paste job", you mean the movie scene, not necessarily the music. So maybe you didn't aimed at Horner with this remark...]

I hope I'm not getting a reputation for being a trouble maker!

I wasn't attacking Horner for plagiarism here at all. It was indeed the film footage I was refering to when I said 'cut and paste job'. Takes me out of the film every time. It's so obvious - the Enterprise model doesn't even match! I'm actually one of the few people that likes the first movie, as much if not more than Khan (constantly and rather overbearingly asserted as THE greatest Trek); it has a sense of mystery, of the mesmerising unknowability of space, that the others don't. The small matter of the poetic imagination of a certain Mr Goldsmith helps too

Originally Posted by 10Arrows

Actually, what is desperately desired (by some of us) is an expanded score (without sfx).

That's kind of what I meant. Also the sound could do with sprucing up a bit.

Doublehex - thanks, I've seen that interview before. It's pretty epic but Jerry seems rather wearied, even somehow melancholic. Makes me feel quite sad to watch. He's still so inspiring though - very modest and understated, but you can tell that he has a piercing intellect. He's also such an naturally elegant man.

Will definately check out Demon's Souls too.

Danny - thanks for the St Pancras Suite. Really fun piece! The theme sounds almost exotic/arabianish. Funny to see on Dixon's website that he's done music for Miss World too!

Garcia - I'm listening to the Young compliation now. Still haven't really clicked with him. Think Species is my fav so far.

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Originally Posted by garcia27

Here a impressive compilation with suites from his more important works that I posted previously. The links still work:

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Thanks. I'm a fan of Young! While I have the majority of his discs. It's nice to have suites of his for the ride!

[garcia27]

Thanks for the previous uploads.

Today I uploaded one of the compilations that more enjoy. It contains the greatest woks by one of the best classic cinema composers, Dimitri Tiomkin. Each of its themes is absolutely marvelous, from western movies to historical movies, the most of them belonging to very known movies for all the people that like the cinema. I hope you enjoy.

The Alamo: Dimitri Tiomkin: The Essential Film Music Collection

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Track listing:


Disc/Cassette 1

1. Night Passage (02:09)
2. Tension at Table Rock (04:44)
3. High Noon (02:34)
4. The War Wagon (05:05)
5. The Wild Wild West (02:08)
Main Theme
6. The Wild Wild West (02:12)
The Ballad of Jim West
7. Gunfight at the O.K. Corral (08:47)
8. Rio Bravo (05:05)
9. Rawhide (02:15)
10. Red River (03:29)
11. The Unforgiven (02:28)
Across the Texas Panhandle
12. The Unforgiven (03:08)
The Need for Love
13. The Unforgiven (02:13)
Horse Ballet
14. The Young Land (02:38)
15. Duel in the Sun (12:51)

Disc/Cassette 2

1. The Fall of the Roman Empire (03:57)
Overture
2. The Fall of the Roman Empire (03:09)
The Fall of Love
3. The Fall of the Roman Empire (05:31)
Pax Romana
4. 55 Days at Peking (04:06)
5. Land of the Pharaohs (03:04)
6. Circus World (The Magnificent Showman) (02:20)
7. Dial M for Murder (07:08)
8. Strangers on a Train (07:47)
9. Giant (02:09)
Main Title
10. Giant (02:45)
Love Theme
11. Giant (02:53)
The Jett Rink Theme
12. The High and the Mighty (01:58)
13. Wild is the Wind (02:40)
14. The Guns of Navarone (09:37)

Disc/Cassette 3

1. Cyrano De Bergerac (02:41)
2. The Well (04:19)
3. Friendly Persuasion (03:43)
4. Town Without Pity (04:06)
5. It's a Wonderful Life (02:33)
6. Tarzan and the Mermaids (05:47)
7. The Thing from Another World (07:35)
8. The Alamo (05:07)
Overture/Prologue
9. The Alamo (02:32)
Davy Crockett
10. The Alamo (02:14)
Tennessee Babe
11. The Alamo (08:42)
The Battle of the Alamo
12. The Alamo (03:29)
The Green Leaves of Summer
13. The Alamo (01:22)
Final

Disc/Cassette 4

1. Giant (02:10)
Vocal - This Then is Texas
2. Rawhide (02:18)
Vocal - Rawhide
3. High Noon (02:33)
Vocal - Do Not Forsake Me
4. Night Passage (02:08)
Vocal - Follow the River
5. Giant (02:52)
Vocal - The Ballad of Jett Rink
6. Friendly Persuasion (03:44)
Vocal - Thee I Love
7. It's Wonderful Life (02:35)
Vocal
8. Wild Is the Wind (02:34)
Vocal
9. The High and the Mighty (01:47)
Vocal
10. The War Wagon (02:36)
Vocal - The Ballad of the War Wagon
11. Rio Bravo (01:46)
Vocal
12. The Young Land (02:39)
Vocal - Strange are the Ways of Love
13. The Wild Wild West (02:13)
Vocal - The Ballad of Jim West
14. The Wild Wild West (02:54)
Vocal - The Wild Wild West

Total Duration: 03:29:49

About the composer:

Dimitri Tiomkin; Born Dmitri Zinovievich Tiomkin
May 10, 1894(1894-05-10)
Kremenchuk, Poltava, Ukraine
Died November 11, 1979 (aged 85)
London, England
Years active 1929 - 1979

Dimitri Zinovievich Tiomkin (Ukrainian: Дмитро Зиновійович Тьомкін, Dmytro Zynoviyovych Tiomkin, Russian: Дмитрий Зиновьевич Тёмкин, Dmitrij Zinov'evič Tëmkin, sometimes translated as Dmitri Tiomkin) (May 10, 1894 – November 11, 1979) was a film score composer and conductor. Along with Max Steiner, Miklós Rózsa and Franz Waxman, Tiomkin was one of the most productive and decorated film music writers of Hollywood.

Biography

Tiomkin was born of Jewish parents in Kremenchuk, Ukraine, and educated at the Saint Petersburg Conservatory in Russia, where he studied piano with Felix Blumenfeld and harmony and counterpoint with Alexander Glazunov. In 1920, while working for the Petrograd Military District Political Administration (PUR), he was one of the lead organizers of two revolutionary mass spectacles, the "Mystery of Liberated Labor," a pseudo-religious mystery play for the May Day festivities, and "The Storming of the Winter Palace" for the celebrations of the third anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution.[1]

In 1924 Tiomkin left the USSR[2] and moved to Berlin, where his father was practising as a doctor, and had lessons with Ferruccio Busoni. He emigrated to the United States in 1925, moved to Hollywood in 1930 with his wife, dancer Albertina Rasch (1895-1967), and became an American citizen in 1937.

Although influenced by Eastern European music traditions, he was able to score typical American movies like Frank Capra's famous Lost Horizon (1937) or It's a Wonderful Life (1946) and also Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939), both with James Stewart. He also worked on Fred Zinnemann's High Noon (1952), which also won him a "Best Song" Oscar for “Do Not Forsake Me, Oh My Darlin'” (“The Ballad of High Noon”). This song, years later, was recorded by the Brazilian rock band Legião Urbana in a disc. He won the Academy Award for best scoring of the John Wayne film The High and the Mighty (1954); during the telecast ceremonies in 1955, Tiomkin humorously thanked all of the earlier composers who had influenced him in writing this music; among them were Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, and many of the other great names of European classical music.

Tiomkin scored four films for Alfred Hitchcock: Shadow of a Doubt (1943), Strangers on a Train (1951), I Confess (1952) and Dial M for Murder (1954).

Many classic scores followed, many of which were composed for Western movies, such as High Noon (1952), Giant (1956), Friendly Persuasion (1956), Gunfight at the O.K. Corral (1957), Rio Bravo (1959), and The Alamo (1960). Tiomkin also composed the music for The Guns of Navarone (1961), Town Without Pity (1961), 55 Days at Peking (1963), The Fall of the Roman Empire (1964), and The War Wagon (1967).

He was the first composer to receive two Oscars (score and song) for the same dramatic film, High Noon. The film uses a song to introduce the film and the lyrics tell the whole story in under 2 minutes and 30 seconds.[3]

However, one of Dimitri Tiomkin's scores for a classic film has not become as famous as his others. His music for the 1950 Cyrano de Bergerac, the first screen version in English of Edmond Rostand's classic French play (and the film for which actor Jose Ferrer won his only Oscar), is very rarely heard outside the film, is almost never performed in concert, has never been given an extensive recording, and was not nominated for an Oscar.

Besides cinema he was also active in writing for the small screen, writing some memorable television theme-songs, as for Rawhide (1959) and Gunslinger. He was also hired to write the theme for TV's The Wild Wild West (1965), but the producers rejected his themes and hired Richard Markowitz. A cover version of the theme from Rawhide was performed in the 1980 cult musical film The Blues Brothers.

Besides writing music for several television series, Tiomkin made a few appearances as himself on television programs. These include an appearance on Jack Benny's CBS program in December 1961, in which he attempted to help Jack write a song.[4]

He also wrote the music to the song Wild Is The Wind. It was originally recorded by Johnny Mathis for the the 1957 film Wild Is the Wind. It is mostly well-known as a jazz singer Nina Simone's standard. The song carried on in a 1976 David Bowie's cover (Bowie being a long time admirer of Simone). In 1981, David Bowie released a single of the same name, which became a hit in the UK charts.

Dimitri Tiomkin died in London, England in 1979 and was interred in Forest Lawn Memorial Park Cemetery in Glendale, California.

[edit] Legacy

A number of Tiomkin's film scores were released on LP soundtrack albums, including Giant and The Alamo. Some of the recordings, which usually featured Tiomkin conducting his own music, have been reissued on CD.

In 1976, RCA Victor released Lost Horizon: The Classic Film Scores of Dimitri Tiomkin (US catalogue #ARL1-1669, UK catalogue #GL 43445) with Charles Gerhardt and the National Philharmonic Orchestra. Featuring highlights from various Tiomkin scores, the album was later reissued by RCA on CD with Dolby Surround Sound.

[garcia27]

Originally Posted by Lens of Truth

Garcia - I'm listening to the Young compliation now. Still haven't really clicked with him. Think Species is my fav so far.

My favorites without any doubt are his works for the classic horror movies by Clive Barker Hellraiser and the posterior sequel Hellbound. May be you will need more time, I understand that Young is not an "easy listening" composer.

Curiously one of the themes that we found in Hellbound was adapted by Young as additional music for Spiderman 2 when the director Sam Raimi had "creative" differences with Elfman and Young entered in the movie.

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[JRL3001]

Originally Posted by dannyfrench

Amen!

Let's all celebrate with...

[CENTER]HIROSHI TAKAKI
Sinfonia Tytania

More comments and a review later on, but for now: This is a fully symphonic masterpiece - grand and stately, superb composition and an excellent orchestral performance.

Oooohhgghhh!!!! Thank you! I have been waiting for this to come out! *dies in musical glee!*

[cupacupu]

Originally Posted by Sirusjr

Elvandia Story OST - Noriyuki Iwadare (first and last track) and Norihiko Hibino
Orchestral/fantasy/sweeping

http://rapidshare.com/files/247115870/NI_NH-ES.rar
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Credit for original rip goes to gamemp3s, who released it in 2007

never heard this one . . .
really interested with the composers..Noriyuki Iwadare and Norihiko Hibino !
thanks for posting this

and..gotta be honest, i fell in love with orchestral music since i read about this thread...
you guys' choices are AWESOME !!!
thanks for all the recommendations out there !

[dooj17]

Hi!

I've really enjoyed reading the discussions for the last few pages. Amazing that a discussion of film music is more civil here than on the FSM board.

In the last few months I have been really digging into Golden Age scores. I grew up with Goldsmith, Horner, etc...then I discovered Bernard Herrmann. That made me into a "collector". Benny is by far my favorite composer of all time. Then I stumbled across the Gerhardt-conducted "Sea Hawk" / Korngold compilation and I was like - whoa - how could I have ignored this treasure trove! After immersing myself in Korngold, Steiner, Rosza and Waxman it really makes one realize how thin modern film music is these days. To be honest I used to like some of Zimmer's scores but when I listen to them now they seem closer to progressive rock music (which is fine, but not nearly as complex as classic film music). For the modern film composers I can say I still look forward to an Elfman score, tho lately he's been very hit and miss.

Anyways, thanks to all for the great shares here. I'll have to think of something to share - anyone interested in Goldsmith's FSM expanded Logan's Run? Kind of an old release so probably most people have that but I'll up it if there's any interest.

PS - I'm kind of pre-disposed against anime music after 1980 (possibly because of the sheer volume), but this Amano guy everybody's talking about has piqued my interest. I agree, that cover is pretty cool, especially since I am a huge Space battleship Yamato fan. Thanks Dannyfrench!

[Sirusjr]

dooj17-I would be interested in Logan's Run expanded. I don't believe I have any version of that score. Thanks.

EDIT: If you want GOOD anime soundtracks after 1980 just look no further than everything by Yuki Kajiura from .hack//sign to the upcoming Pandora Hearts, Kotaro Nakagawa scores, Kousuke YAMASHITA scores, and most importantly, Joe Hisaishi's work for Studio Ghibli movies. I intend to make a Kotaro Nakagawa collection thread when his latest two scores come out.

[dooj17]

Upping Logan now, but I have to go out before it's done so I will have to post the link when I get back.

I used to listen to a few Hisaishi scores, I have a few Ghibli "image" scores as well as the Nausicca disc somewhere around here. Lately Miyazaki's films have been so err.."unappetizing to a grownup" let's say, that I forgot about Joe. I'll have to revisit that stuff, about the same time I got into Joe I came into a huge Morricone stash and well...got kinda distracted

Update: Logan's Run 320k Jerry Goldsmith
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My personal track recommendations to make this into a condensed suite: 1,3,8,10, 12,13,15,17, 18, 20, 22.

[Sanico]

Here is the beautiful main theme of Exodus by Ernest Gold.
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Tadlow will release a complete recording of this soundtrack, and they have posted on youtube a video from a recording session of this theme.
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[Sanico]

dooj17: That's very nice. I presume that Logan's Run is Goldsmith in his more experimental side, but i will listen later to be sure.
Thank you for your contribution.

[dooj17]

It starts out very electronic but once Logan gets out of the city it becomes much more Goldsmith in his 70's orchestral mode. The electronic cues get kinda annoying after awhile, tho, which is why I have a custom tracklist.

Originally Posted by Sanico

dooj17: That's very nice. I presume that Logan's Run is Goldsmith in his more experimental side, but i will listen later to be sure.
Thank you for your contribution.

[Sanico]

I have listened Logan's Run.
It's one soundtrack with 2 distinct approaches, with one heavy on electronics and the other in more traditional orchestral mode.
The first half is filled with electronic sounds and isn't very easy to listen. Even the few string parts are austere. Liked the tracks 'Intensive Care' & 'Ice Sculpture'.
The second half is where the orchestra dominates, and it's the best part of the score, in my opinion.
This turn starts in 'The Sun', and 'The Monument' is probably my favourite track of the album. 'You're Renewed', is a complex action cue who Goldsmith is known how to write so well. I even like the 'The Interrogation' which is an electronic schizophrenic cue, and the last of this kind. 'End of the City' is a beautiful cue to finish the album.

Thanks for sharing, dooj.

[dooj17]

Originally Posted by Lens of Truth

As it's the 5th anniversary of Jerry Goldsmith's passing coming up in July, I thought I'd post some of my favourite scores of his over the next month or so. I'm sure many of you will have these already, but I know Sirusjr is keen for a few more that aren’t on his list

OMEN III - THE FINAL CONFLICT
320kbps / 145MB / 15 tracks / 1:03

Wow, this is a great find! I admit I probably like less than a third of Jerry's scores (mainly because I have much narrower spectrum of taste than Jerry did) but this is one I somehow missed. Thanks for sharing this.

Man, dig the Katchaturian in "ATV First". LMAO.