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    How to rip Blu ray 7.1 channels?

    Sorry I know this might not be the right place to ask, but surely the place where most poeple who know about this read

    So, could anybody who has done this before give a simple guidline on how to do this (programs to use, step by step explanation)?

    I'm very familiar with extracting 5.1 mixes from a DVD (using besweet) but Blu-Ray seems to be a whole different thing. From the few explanations there are no simple ones (at least to me theyäre not).

    I'd really appreciate some help.

    Thanks a lot folks!!

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    Thanks!

    I don't want to sound spoiled or anything but those thread usually start woth someone trying to do this, then fails a thousand times using the sugessted programms/ways and then after 54 thread pages succeeds.
    So it'*s extremely tiresome to read through all this stuff.

    Since I know you can do it Faleel, couldn't you give a very short step by step guide on how to do aít and what programms to use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin_d View Post
    Thanks!

    I don't want to sound spoiled or anything but those thread usually start woth someone trying to do this, then fails a thousand times using the sugessted programms/ways and then after 54 thread pages succeeds.
    So it'*s extremely tiresome to read through all this stuff.

    Since I know you can do it Faleel, couldn't you give a very short step by step guide on how to do aít and what programms to use?
    I can't rip blu-rays, I sent those links to a friend, and had him rip them.

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    Ah okay, I see. Well could he provide some guidance? :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin_d View Post
    Ah okay, I see. Well could he provide some guidance? :-)
    He is on youtube as "StmaWitchkingangmar6" or on here as Pakje.

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    Okay got it. Thanks a lot mate!!

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    The easiest way I've been able to find is to use HDBR Stream Extractor. You have the option to extract 7.1 files to 8 individual WAVEs. Can't get any easier than that.

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    Doom 9 is a really good place to lurk for info.
    Careful if you want ask any questions.
    They won't help you if you're working with stuff you don't own.

    Like if you downloaded a movie rip or rented it and asked for help (and mentioned it; or it shows in your log files of any problems; or if you modify your log files), a mod/admin will lock the thread.




    I'd recommend having a look at eac3to on Doom 9.
    I use it all the time for audio extraction.
    Code:
    http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125966
    It's Command Line utility. But here's a simple GUI to go with it.
    Code:
    http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141829
    You'll need some extra filters and plugins installed to get the most out of it.

    Arcsoft HD decoder is needed to decode lossless DTS (DTS-HD MA/DTS-HR/etc)
    Version 1.1.0.0 is the best version to use. Widely compatible without errors.
    It can properly decode 7.1 (with strange setup) and with (normal setup).
    Sometimes when the 7.1 is mastered, the channel order is not a standard setup. The back and side channels might be mixed up.
    Note: Although the Arcsoft decoder has updated, it is advisable to NOT update with eac3to. As some of the updated versions lose capabilities and can create problems.
    Code:
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/qfqbemwoi3x8wyw/ArcSoft%20Decoder%20Pack%20eac3to%20v1.1.0.0.7z
    Extract those files to the eac3to folder and follow the instructions in the .txt file.

    Dobly TrueHD is decoded with the internal libav codec.

    It's also advisable to update to the current MKVToolnix:
    Code:
    http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MKVtoolnix
    And put this GUI into the installed folder of MKVToolnix:
    Code:
    http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MKVExtractGUI-2
    Nero decoder pack, lite version. Simple install, small, only installs needed files to work with eac3to.
    Only version 7x works with eac3to. Using anything higher than 7x is incompatible with eac3to (due to the installation structure changing and file dependencies).
    Code:
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/s7bp8hou9ageo9d/Nero-7.11.10.0_english_lite.exe.rar
    Nero AAC Encoder (extract to eac3to folder)
    Code:
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/8mpdc1661qjbq80/NeroAACCodec-1.5.1.rar
    Here's Sonic Decoder, just a simple install.
    Code:
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/fykpcx8xcmilx9c/Sonic_CinePlayer_HD_DVD_Decoder_v4.3.0.rar
    And make sure you have the latest "Haali Matroska Splitter" in stalled.
    Code:
    http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Haali-Media-Splitter
    Don't worry about "Surcode DTS Encoder".
    That's only if you want to create your own DTS files and DTS-HD files.

    I like using a context shell extension "Open Command Prompt Here".
    Comes in handy when using eac3to.
    This allows you to use the folder you "Open command prompt" in to use as the temp directory, instead of the default directory (usually Documents and Settings/Users/Username", etc on the C: drive.)
    So if I open the command prompt in D:/Work/Movie, all the temp files and output files will be in here and the temp files deleted.
    Before the temp files would be on C: drive where it's not big enough to hold a 30gb demuxed movie.
    And I would get errors about disk space. But with this shell extension, it prevents that
    Code:
    http://code.kliu.org/cmdopen/


    Once all that is installed and setup, go to your folder of eac3to and "Open Command Prompt Here".
    input this:
    Code:
    eac3to -test -log=test_log.txt
    You should see results like this...
    eac3to v3.24
    command line: "E:\App Bin\eac3to\eac3to.exe" -test -log=test_log.txt
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    eac3to (v3.24) is up to date
    Nero Audio Decoder (Nero 7) works fine
    ArcSoft DTS Decoder (1.1.0.0) works fine
    Sonic Audio Decoder (4.3.0.169) works fine
    Haali Matroska Muxer (2011-03-03) is up to date
    Nero AAC Encoder (1.5.4.0) is up to date
    Surcode DTS Encoder (1.0.29.0) is installed
    MkvToolnix (5.0.1.0, release version) is up to date
    Except for Surcode DTS Encoder. (Not really necessary).

    Now you're ready to extract the lossless 7.1 DTS-HD/TrueHD!!!

    You can export audio into a huge WAV file and retain the 7.1/24 bit depth/48Khz.
    or you can export as FLAC and retain the same attributes.
    or you can export as w64 (WAV file with 64 extension to allow programs to open WAV files larger than 4gb)
    or you can split the 8 channels into 8 mono wavs.
    Code:
    eac3to source.mkv 2: output.WAVs
    adding 2: tells eac3to to select the second audio channel.
    If there's more than one audio channel, make sure you select the right one.
    eac3to always defaults to the first visible audio channel.
    (Which is the second stream in the container file.
    Video is the first stream 1:
    Audio is the second stream 2:
    )


    and i would lurk around doom 9 a little more on eac3to.

    I spent the past year trying to find out the proper Arcsoft decoder for 7.1.
    And it seems in the past month or so, everyone got together and worked on finding that out.
    The one I provided is best for all needs.

    There's some pages in that eac3to thread on Doom9 that talk about properly mixing 7.1 to 5.1; 6.1 to 5.1; 6.1 to 7.1 then to 5.1; 5.1 to 2.0; etc.
    Note that eac3to does not downmix 2.1/3.0/3.1/4.0/4.1/5.0 to 2.0.
    For those, you will have to do that manually.

    Hope that helps.
    It's all tried tested and true.
    I've been using eac3to for a year or more now and haven't looked back

    ---------- Post added at 02:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:35 PM ----------

    Oh yeah, and it can also work with LPCM too.
    It came true! You're lookin' at it...

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    Wow, thanks a lot Sparktank (and you too codyap09)!!!
    Just what I needed :-)

    Really, thanks a lot!!!

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    I don't want to sound spoiled or anything but those thread usually start woth someone trying to do this, then fails a thousand times using the sugessted programms/ways and then after 54 thread pages succeeds.
    So it'*s extremely tiresome to read through all this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taikepale View Post
    I don't want to sound spoiled or anything but those thread usually start woth someone trying to do this, then fails a thousand times using the sugessted programms/ways and then after 54 thread pages succeeds.
    So it'*s extremely tiresome to read through all this stuff.
    It's more or less about competence.
    Before you can do anything, you really have to take the time to learn about the programs so the methods make sense.

    Trying to do it step-by-step is not really step-by-step. It's a guide line. A stencil for tracing.
    There's a lot of features and things you need to know about the program first.
    Plugins that are necessary.

    Since this is also a command-line program, it really helps to learn everything about the program first.
    Such as where you open it. If you figure out how to add the CMD to the context menu ("Open CMD here"), it really helps with the extraction.
    Without that option, the temp files are in the default system temp folders.

    And if your main drive isn't big enough, you'll get errors and waste your own time.
    Typical bluray movies are 20-35gb.

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