PDA

View Full Version : FFXII- How you like it so far?



Pages : [1] 2

Joey
10-31-2006, 10:55 AM
Please try and keep this Spoiler Free
Well, I know a lot of people went to the Midnight Release for the game and are actually playing it right now.
But since I had school today I will not get it for another few more hours.

What are your current thoughts on the game? Is it as exciting as you had hoped?

Mailbox
10-31-2006, 12:58 PM
Well, I was going to go into this rant about how much I do, in fact, like this game but I'm just going to copy and paste from my Livejournal. XD


Quite frankly, Final Fantasy XII, in my honest opinion, is fucking brilliant.

I'm not crazy about alot of games but without spoilers, I can safely say the characters are wonderful. I'm really enjoying them so far, and Balthier is competing with Roy Mustang here. ^___^ The battle system is fun and gambits are my best friend. You still have to pay attention but if you set them up correctly, they do most of the work.

I'm impressed with the License board and how it works; easy to understand, not complicated, wonderfully efficient, and useful. The graphics are of course, grade A stuff. The story is sufficient but considering I'm only a couple hours in, I can see it opening up into this big thing. It's always slow in the beginning, any retard knows this.

So, the bottom line without covering anything too complicated is, it's a great game. (from my first impression mind you) I can't wait to hop back on and play some more. It's getting more interesting...

Oh! and the save crystals are so cute! One of my favorite parts is when it heals everyone etc, it just looks neat. They're a pretty blue color. (Wow, I'm such a tart =P)
My opinion will have a better basis in the next couple days and I can evaluate things better. So, this is only the beginning... =P

Then again, games are like people, you can only make a first impression once.

cloudlao
10-31-2006, 03:24 PM
Well, ive had ir for several days now, but i dont have that much time to play it. But Ive played allready 15 hours or so. And the game is, like twilight sead FUKING BRILLIANT. The charaters are awsome, the story (its similar to star wars, just that in a final fantasy world), the architecture of the locations, the disign of everything (ships, buildings, weapons, powers, etc), the clasic final fantasy tactics races and the fiends. Ill spare my words, everything in the game is fantastic, and i aploude squere fore doing such a great job.
Just talking about it makes me wanna play, shame ive got to study and take care of day to day things that eat all my time. But ill play all weakend.

Gilthanos
10-31-2006, 03:42 PM
FUCKING AWESOME!!!

I'm about 10 hours into the game now and ... I can't believe how well put together it is. The voice acting is actually quite amazing, alot better than pretty boy Tidus and Yuna. The voices actually have feeling behind them. I especially love Fran's and Balthier's voice. Basch is that typical warrior gruff voice. Love the sound

Quickenings... took me awhile to figure it out. But once I decided to take on that gree T-Rex in the first fighting zone and realized that if I wanna beat it i better learn how to use them quickenings.. .. it's really not that hard to get 10000 damage.

So Far the liscense board is a bit.. overwhelming as getting LP can be quite a grind. BUT.. being that you can steal loot quite easily and sell it for tons of gil, grinding for both LP and gil is rather enjoyable. Especially since 80% of the monsters only give 1 LP. So if you're lvl 10 and you wanna go into a densly populated lvl 1 zone.. kill away get all the LP you need with one strike each. It's rather quite nice.

The little odd jobs you get (hunts/marks) are fun as well. I've spent most of my time getting to know the battle system.

I admit though that I kinda suck with the gambit system. I'm kind of old school meaning that I'd rather just plug in commands at my own liesure.

Judges are indeed menacing. The first time you hear the voice of Judge Gabranth can send a chill down your back. His voice is by far one of the most powerful because it is so well matched to his persona. Gives him that human touch in an otherwise monstrous form.

As you can see, it's the voices that have impressed me most. Grinding is fun, i enjoy it and the fact that I never really have to worry about money is something of a blessing. I'm about to get my second quickening at lvl 10 for each of my characters because of it as well... i mean, that's something that makes it all worth the while if you can hammer down opponents like grapes in a vineyard.

J. Peterman
10-31-2006, 03:58 PM
I don't like it too much.

I like Disgaea 2 much more and I'll probably go back to playing that in a couple hours.

Olde
10-31-2006, 04:01 PM
Sounds great...I just got it, so I'm going to put it in in about 2 seconds. I'm actually quite surprised at the thickness of the strategy guide. And you know what that means...more shit to do!

cloudlao
10-31-2006, 04:01 PM
Quickenings... took me awhile to figure it out. But once I decided to take on that gree T-Rex in the first fighting zone and realized that if I wanna beat it i better learn how to use them quickenings.. .. it's really not that hard to get 10000 damage.


Please tell me how, i have my characters in level 17, the only one that has it is Balthier but i cant use it and dont know how.

And youre right about the voices, there amazing.

Magus
10-31-2006, 06:57 PM
I...


..I bought it then realized I don't own a PlayStation 2...


...


D:


I've been watching the special edition DVD for about 3 hours now though. I wanna play. :P

Mailbox
10-31-2006, 06:58 PM
And the game is, like twilight sead FUKING BRILLIANT.
Fucking brilliant.*

I take pride in my quotes and if you're going to fuck them up, establish your own opinion. kthx.

J. Peterman
10-31-2006, 07:21 PM
twilight i think the game is okay not great but okay so far

cloudlao
10-31-2006, 07:48 PM
Fucking brilliant.*

I take pride in my quotes and if you're going to fuck them up, establish your own opinion. kthx.

What the fuCk is youre problem?. And youre a hypocrite, you write kthx. and youre complainign for a C.

Gilthanos
10-31-2006, 08:07 PM
hey cloudlao

The quickenings are a pain in the ass. It gets easier when you have more people who have them. So far I have three people who have 2nd lvl quicks and 3 with the first lvl quicks.

When you have one person start it, he'll start his/her little go at the mob. At the lower right hand corner you'll see people's names, a button, and what move they can perform as well as how much MP it'll cost by the number of gold ovals.

NOW.. you'll also see a blue bar at the bottom which is a timer.

If their names are lit up in white you can perform a move. If all three are gray, the press R2 until one of them becomes white, and then press the cooresponding button by their names until you perform the move. Keep doing so until the timer goes out. Depending on how many chains you have and the lvl of quicks that you use.. will determine what kind of concurrence you get. in other words.. finishing move. whew.. the strategy guide explains it best. Me doing it here can be rather tiresome and confusing.

Mario Kinnikuman
10-31-2006, 08:23 PM
Well, ive had ir for several days now, but i dont have that much time to play it. But I've played allready 15 hours or so. And the game is, like twilight sead FUKING BRILLIANT. The charaters are awsome, the story (its similar to star wars, just that in a final fantasy world), the architecture of the locations, the disign of everything (ships, buildings, weapons, powers, etc), the clasic final fantasy tactics races and the fiends. Ill spare my words, everything in the game is fantastic, and i aploude squere fore doing such a great job.
Just talking about it makes me wanna play, shame ive got to study and take care of day to day things that eat all my time. But ill play all weakend.

Hoo boy. Although there is more for Twilight to be sour about, I won't blame her. She's sparing you for it. I wont. You ought to be thanking her, actually.


What the fuCk is youre problem?. And youre a hypocrite, you write kthx. and youre complainign for a C.

This too.

Joey
10-31-2006, 08:26 PM
Well, I am only about 2 hours into it and I must say the opening was my favorite so far out of the FFs, it was overwhelming with much emotion.
I love the entire game and I like how Vaan's hair looks like the back end of a duck.

cloudlao
10-31-2006, 08:47 PM
Hoo boy. Although there is more for Twilight to be sour about, I won't blame her. She's sparing you for it. I wont. You ought to be thanking her, actually.



This too.

well, i already apologized for my bad grammar. Its because i live in argentina and im still improoving my english.

matt damon
10-31-2006, 08:53 PM
Well, I was going to go into this rant about how much I do, in fact, like this game but I'm just going to copy and paste from my Livejournal. XD
omg, you like something other than WoW?! j/k gina. ^^


Quite frankly, Final Fantasy XII, in my honest opinion, is fucking brilliant.

I'm not crazy about alot of games but without spoilers, I can safely say the characters are wonderful. I'm really enjoying them so far, and Balthier is competing with Roy Mustang here. ^___^ The battle system is fun and gambits are my best friend. You still have to pay attention but if you set them up correctly, they do most of the work.

I'm impressed with the License board and how it works; easy to understand, not complicated, wonderfully efficient, and useful. The graphics are of course, grade A stuff. The story is sufficient but considering I'm only a couple hours in, I can see it opening up into this big thing. It's always slow in the beginning, any retard knows this.

So, the bottom line without covering anything too complicated is, it's a great game. (from my first impression mind you) I can't wait to hop back on and play some more. It's getting more interesting...
she took the words right out of my mouth.


I'm about 10 hours into the game now and ... I can't believe how well put together it is. The voice acting is actually quite amazing, alot better than pretty boy Tidus and Yuna. The voices actually have feeling behind them. I especially love Fran's and Balthier's voice. Basch is that typical warrior gruff voice. Love the sound

yeah, i was thinking the same thing. the voice acting is soo awesome and puts X to shame (as much as i love FFX, i must say that. although it's not the voice actors' faults; it was the fault of all the technicians and stuff.)


I admit though that I kinda suck with the gambit system. I'm kind of old school meaning that I'd rather just plug in commands at my own liesure.
same here x2


Well, I am only about 2 hours into it and I must say the opening was my favorite so far out of the FFs, it was overwhelming with much emotion.
i liked the intro, but i liked previous games' intros betters. i think 8's was the best, imo.

oh, and cloudlao, you need to learn how to spell.

well, i already apologized for my bad grammar. Its because i live in argentina and im still improoving my english.
oh, ok, then all is forgiven.

hey, hey, "don't cry for me, argentina."

Sackboy
10-31-2006, 08:55 PM
OMG, just the intro leading up to the title screen gave me chills. I :love: LOVE :love: this game!

Mailbox
10-31-2006, 09:47 PM
What the fuCk is youre problem?. And youre a hypocrite, you write kthx. and youre complainign for a C.
I wasn't complaining about your grammer, I was complaining about the obvious mistake in my quote. I let you slide with the grammer too, now you're just asking for it. It's right there in front of you, it doesn't take a retard to either hit the Quote button or copy and paste.

By the way, 'Kthx' is common internet lingo, not something to be judged as a spelling or grammar infraction. But do as you please, I'm a hypocritical, heartless bitch anyway.

Edit: Patrick Swayze is my brother by the way.

J. Peterman
10-31-2006, 10:02 PM
twilight it is grammar not grammer just so u know

i know frasier is good but i think that sometimes u know frasier grammar grammer u know

Mailbox
10-31-2006, 10:06 PM
twilight it is grammar not grammer just so u know
That's the 3rd time I've done that....and been corrected. I'll never learn.

J. Peterman
10-31-2006, 10:08 PM
twilight u should continue doing it b/c it is cool

Mailbox
10-31-2006, 10:10 PM
It's only cool because I'm cool.

J. Peterman
10-31-2006, 10:12 PM
u need a jacket then don't get sick

Olde
10-31-2006, 10:25 PM
i have my characters in level 17

jezus, already? I've been playing nonstop for six hours and my characters are all at level 5!

Joey
10-31-2006, 11:03 PM
It's only cool because I'm cool.

True that

Gilthanos
11-01-2006, 12:46 AM
Anyway.. since this isn't an english class and it is something about FFXII!

Cloudlau was asking something about quickenings...

You know the boss you had to fight outside the tomb? ... needless to say it wasn't much of a fight for me. The thing had 6700 something HP, i dealt 10940 damage using a concurrence and a series of 8 quickenings. Most were lvl 2. Now.... that's power. The major downside ot quickenings is that they drain all your MP, but.. i figure that since it is such a huge attack.. when it's over, just sub in the other three people, wash, rinse, repeat.

ekinserge
11-01-2006, 03:50 AM
how i love this game?

dunno what to say because this is the best and greatest game that i have played after RE4

cloudlao
11-01-2006, 01:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cloudlao
i have my characters in level 17

jezus, already? I've been playing nonstop for six hours and my characters are all at level 5!

Well here in Argentina i got the game two weaks before you guys in the states. So ive got to play like 15 hours.

Gilthanos
11-01-2006, 02:39 PM
lol.. i've got 22 hours in the game and i've only had it since the morning (12am) of halloween. haha

Joey
11-01-2006, 04:43 PM
I've had it for a day and only have about 4-5 hours.

I have a lot of things going on lately.

Zankard5
11-01-2006, 06:21 PM
So from the way you guys sound (type whatever), it must be a real good game, right? I have not been able to get it because my parents won't let me because I am failing chemistry and "they don't have the money". Anyways I would like to hear mmore about it. Z5 sighning out.

Joey
11-01-2006, 06:25 PM
It is a must buy. If you have time to kill, that is the best way to do it as of right now.

Zankard5
11-01-2006, 06:28 PM
I will try. I have pre-ordered but like I said "my parents don't have the money" and neither do I. So anyways I will try to get it asap.

Joey
11-01-2006, 06:30 PM
I hope you didn't put too much money on it because they only hold it for 48 hours after release ( GameStop anyway), so if they run out they can sell your copy.

Zankard5
11-01-2006, 06:39 PM
Eh, it was only $5 down payment. Ok back to ff12, let's hear more about it.

The Anti-Existence
11-01-2006, 08:14 PM
How are the villains? A great game needs a great villain.

Gilthanos
11-01-2006, 08:19 PM
Possible Spoilers ..look away if you're squeamish







The villains are great. You see Dr. Cid talking to himself, but looking at something next to him, so it begs the questinon. Vayne... he.. well.. he seems to be kind of a power monger, but you can't really tell what his motives are just yet. The judges really do bring life to the baddieness of the game. With their helmets on they are truely bad ass and give a monstrous visage and personality. Helmets off and you can see the human aspect of them and the Aristocratish type of attitude towards any and everything. Gabranth is truely bad ass.

Sackboy
11-01-2006, 08:53 PM
Those with time on your hands, you guys are lucky. So far I'm only 5:41 into it. :sad:



















































BUT THIS SHIT IS FUN!!!

Gilthanos
11-01-2006, 11:03 PM
yes it is. Also .. let me say it now. When you get to a tomb.. .kill the first AND second wall. The optional one is first.. if you do it, you have a good chance of getting a sword WAY stronger than any weapon you should have at that point.

mighty_aeons
11-02-2006, 12:46 AM
I tried it many times but I never found that sword. Nah, I'll skip the sword.

iceberg325
11-02-2006, 04:32 PM
can I ask why the hell is Fran attacking me everytime we kill a monster? She hits Vaan for about 80 damage. WTF!!!?? lol

Now she just attacked herself wtf???

Gilthanos
11-02-2006, 04:39 PM
might be a shitty gambit you have OR, she's confused.

iceberg325
11-02-2006, 04:41 PM
might be a shitty gambit you have OR, she's confused.

I just got the gambits, im in the sewers. Her first gambit is attack what party leader is targeting and second gambit is heal < 70%. This is pissing me off lol.

Gilthanos
11-02-2006, 04:45 PM
well then I have no idea. Might be an error on yoru side, cause you CAN command your other characters to attack your own party. I don't know the problme you're having, I don't have that problem, but I'd look at it deeper, see what she's equipped with or something. There's something driving it, just gotta find out what it is.

iceberg325
11-02-2006, 04:57 PM
well then I have no idea. Might be an error on yoru side, cause you CAN command your other characters to attack your own party. I don't know the problme you're having, I don't have that problem, but I'd look at it deeper, see what she's equipped with or something. There's something driving it, just gotta find out what it is.

The funny thing is the last time I played this didnt happen. I put the game on today and it started. As soon as a fight is over, she turns to vaan and tries to attack him. The only way I cant stop her is switch to her and heal someone lol.

Joey
11-02-2006, 04:58 PM
Kill her and refuse her corpse a Phoenix Down.

iceberg325
11-02-2006, 05:10 PM
Kill her and refuse her corpse a Phoenix Down.

Lol.

Well by to the subject, i love this game so far. I played the demo a while back and I liked it right away. The battle system is great (minus Fran attacking herself lol). The gambits are cool and the board is good.

dtpena
11-02-2006, 05:24 PM
I tried it many times but I never found that sword. Nah, I'll skip the sword.

Trust me, go outside the temple and back in, do all the walk, don't kill any enemy (not even the flans) in your way to the chest and open it. Then the sword should appear, at least that's how it worked for me, and IT IS worthy.

funnyboy4004
11-02-2006, 06:07 PM
what tomb are u guys talking about? i just got out of some mines, that has 4 bosses.. i just ran lol.. i tryed fighting them but i couldnt really beat them, cuz my characters didnt have any quickenings at all, just vaans, bu he only did about 1000 damage.

dtpena
11-02-2006, 06:16 PM
what tomb are u guys talking about? i just got out of some mines, that has 4 bosses.. i just ran lol.. i tryed fighting them but i couldnt really beat them, cuz my characters didnt have any quickenings at all, just vaans, bu he only did about 1000 damage.

The tomb is later in the game, if I remember correctly.
And don't worry about running from those guys, if you beat them it only shows you a brief animation and they run away, in other words: LAME for all my efforts...*cries*

Creek
11-02-2006, 06:30 PM
Mah, I've only got three hours on it. I've played for about 8, but I had to restart (before you go the the waterway). I got to the dungeon but I died and couldn't figure out how to get through the guards. Is there somewhere in the dungeon that I can get potions or something that can heal me? I really don't want to go through the sewers again; I even hate the cg ones >.>'

iceberg325
11-02-2006, 07:15 PM
Mah, I've only got three hours on it. I've played for about 8, but I had to restart (before you go the the waterway). I got to the dungeon but I died and couldn't figure out how to get through the guards. Is there somewhere in the dungeon that I can get potions or something that can heal me? I really don't want to go through the sewers again; I even hate the cg ones >.>'

The part with the guards isnt that hard. It took me a lil bit cause I thought you have to go through the stairs they are guarding. But once I noticed it was on the same side you start on, it was pretty simple.

My best advice to you is not rely on potions too much. Use your cure spells. They help out alot. PLus you regain MP from walking so its not that bad. I have all my characters with cure at the moment, and it really comes in handy.

I just fought another boss and I must say that the boss fights are better than I expected. The game really has you paying attention to the action. Its just like an MMO. You cant fall asleep at the wheel. If you dont pay attention, your group is done. Once your gameplan is figured out, the fighting is simple. I really like this game alot!!!!!!!!!!! I just want to see how the storyline playes out.

Gilthanos
11-02-2006, 07:36 PM
The tomb is later in the game, if I remember correctly.
And don't worry about running from those guys, if you beat them it only shows you a brief animation and they run away, in other words: LAME for all my efforts...*cries*

The dead give away was .. take on the ones that are important and then run. I took out the leader with one quickening and the rest ran away lol. I thought that particular boss fight was pretty lame.

Yes the tomb is later on in the game. To the guy who just ran away from them... take your time to farm some LP and gil. The liscenses make all the difference. I've got 32 hours under my belt now and I swear half of that was spent getting LP. I now have all 18 quickenings available to me and a CRAP load of other stuff. Just food for thought.

Mailbox
11-02-2006, 07:51 PM
I'll just shoot a little update. After Ghis you can basically start working on your characters, their licenses, and what the hell you want them to do so they benefit your party as a whole.

I personally, am a sexist bitch when it comes to such things and my main party is Ashe, Fran, and Penelo. Ashe is my tank, Fran is my DPS, and Penelo is my healer. They can also all heal respectively.

I'm currently grinding the mines for money and levels before I continue a little further. I need to upgrade my gear, weapons, and buy new spells. I'm also switching Penelo to bows and Fran to a melee weapon like poles, spears, rods, poles, or possibly staves. (Shortly after this decision, I noticed it's the same weapon setup in the demo from DQ8 and it works quite nicely) Unfortunately, I'm short on Gil and LP so I have to get my butt into gear, those potions do not buy themselves and potion gambits are useless without them.

iceberg325
11-02-2006, 08:01 PM
I'll just shoot a little update. After Ghis you can basically start working on your characters, their licenses, and what the hell you want them to do so they benefit your party as a whole.

I personally, am a sexist bitch when it comes to such things and my main party is Ashe, Fran, and Penelo. Ashe is my tank, Fran is my DPS, and Penelo is my healer. They can also all heal respectively.

I'm currently grinding the mines for money and levels before I continue a little further. I need to upgrade my gear, weapons, and buy new spells. I'm also switching Penelo to bows and Fran to a melee weapon like poles, spears, rods, poles, or possibly staves. (Shortly after this decision, I noticed it's the same weapon setup in the demo from DQ8 and it works quite nicely) Unfortunately, I'm short on Gil and LP so I have to get my butt into gear, those potions do not buy themselves and potion gambits are useless without them.


Sounds like a plan lol. When I get the chance I plan to do the same. When it comes to rpgs I tend to be a level whore and Im not happy till my party is extremely beefed up lol. My only regret is not having enough time to play the game as much as I would like. Ive only logged in around 8 hrs. Hopefully Ill get more done this weekend.

Mailbox
11-02-2006, 08:03 PM
I don't play as much as I want to either. I'm always sitting online talking to Irish guys (ring any bells Bryan?) or sitting on the forums like my usual routine.

Agent0042
11-02-2006, 09:08 PM
I just got it earlier today. I haven't had any time to actually go out and buy it, so I ordered it on Amazon. So far, I'm really enjoying it. I've only played for about an hour and I just got a hunt-thing to fight a giant red tomato monster. So now it's off to squash a tomato!

Gilthanos
11-02-2006, 09:36 PM
I use all my characters to their fullest extent. Each of them are all within one or two lvls of 24. All of them have all quickenings, and I had started farming LP and the like WELL before I fought Ghis. Getting to that fight with him can be a bish... I got lucky with that fight with him because I was totally unprepared and totally unhealed. I have basically two party configurations.

Vaan :: DD/Tank [Sword/Shield::Technicks::Limited White/Black Magic Capabilities]
Balthier :: DD/Ranged [Gun::Technicks::Limited White magic]
Fran :: Battlemage :: [Katana or Bow::Magic of all color::Limited Technicks]
Basch :: Tank/Massive DD [Axe/Shield::Technicks, mostly augments to boost strength, attack power and HP]
Ashe :: DD non-tank/Healer [Sword/Shield::Magic all Color/Mostly white]
Penelo :: Mage [Staff::Magic All Colors]

During boss battles I use: Vaan, Basch, Fran :: Use quickenings and regular attacks until I'm ready for round two. Then it is time for Balthier, Penelo, Ashe. Another round of quickenings :: Pop a charge on penelo then summon belias to finish the job.

JoNnYReMinD
11-02-2006, 10:30 PM
i like it so far, yet im only 4 hours into the game.

Joey
11-02-2006, 11:23 PM
My party has been really basic with the usual Potion/Cure Gambits.

I had Ashe learn a shit load of White Magic and using Staves/Rods.

Vaan is my all around swordsman complete with some tacticks and basic magick of all kind.

Balthier is the main defense who uses items and his gun of course.

I left Fran a Bow user and uped her skills in Black Magick.

Basch is the main power hitter with swords/axes and knows some magick.

And Penelo, she is my fast agile dagger user who knows just about basic spells in ever color magick.


I am definately loving this game.

Gilthanos
11-03-2006, 12:22 AM
Yes.. we'll definitely see some diversity of party builds in this game.

Agent0042
11-03-2006, 01:53 AM
I can't wait to see some of the diverse builds and stuff. Admittedly, I'm not reading the posts on this thread too closely, as I don't want to spoil anything. I hardly read any preview stuff about the game before it came out. I played a bit more earlier --- beat up that tomato and saw the intro of a guy I think was called Rayne or maybe it was Sayne? Looked kinda like Laguna from FFVIII to me in a way.

Joey
11-03-2006, 02:00 AM
Haha yeah.

You are thinking of Vayne. It is too hard for me to memorize a lot of the names to though.

Tact
11-03-2006, 11:20 AM
i am definatley liking this game. i got it the day it came out on oct 31st. i reserved mine in january and i was the first in the store at like 9:40 am before they opened. :p


i have maybe 15 hours or so into it i think. i don't remember. all i know is i just barely came out the mines (and did the whole shout to get the attention of certain peoples) and my lvl's are 12,12,12,11 i think.

there are a few things i noticed when i first started playing that seemed interesting to me. if this is normal for you, then excuse me. the last ff i played was 9. i never felt like playing x or x-2 for some reason. (even though i have them both lol)

1. i couldn't change my main chars name. i know why, obviously. the voice acting and stuff. so i don't mind. just found it interesting.

2. the battle system at first really bothered me. seeing as i'm free to move around, it gave me the impression that perhaps i can dodge or avoid attacks by moving around. so everytime i got hit, i was like "arg! why am i getting hit! i don't wanna get hit! lol" so i had to force myself into thinking that being able to move around doesn't really mean anything! its like any other rpg where you give hits and TAKE hits. just that i can move around for some reason. O_o after i told myself this a few times, i'm used it now and it doesn't bother me.

3. its great how you can litterally make any character any type of job. this is definately totally new to me. and i both like it, and hate it. lol i like it cause its unique, and awesome, and you can make penelo a tank and basch a mage if you really wanted to. lol but i also hate it cause now i don't know what to make who and i'm TOTALLY indicisive(sp?) and its really really hard. >.< i don't know if i should make fran a mage or not. one of the things that worries me is maybe putting too much mp into a certain build, and then realizing that's not what i really wanted? you can't go back. >.< so basically, with the freedom of having any char be any build, i'm cursed with not being able to decide what to make them.

for sure i made vaan a tank. after ff9, i really did NOT WANT to have another "thief/bandit" as my main character. i'm really sick of games like that. daggers are the new cool thing and everyone wants to have thieves/bandits as main characters. its really not my thing at all. so i made him a regular sword shield warrior type. but then i realized it really makes no diffrence cause he never changes appearance so....-_-

i have the tendency to let my lp rack up and never knowing what to put it in. i'm always so indicisive. i'm scared to take a step that i think i might regret later on. i feel as though i have to be very picky with it, but maybe i really don't. especially since i CAN get as much lp as i want when i NEED it...

only just yesterday did i realize...i have to use it. (all my chars had over 250 lp, one had over 300, and i thik one had 400. O_o)

i was gonna go fight a mark in the mines (the big plant thing), i went to fight it, and came somewhat close before i died.

then after the guide, i notice they mention quickenings, so i'm like..damn, i should have some by now? arg! so i spent all the lp i had around the green area (battle lore, hp +100, potion lore, gambit slots...that type of stuff) i spent it all there and got my first quickening for vaan. after that, i went to fight the mark again, and won. :D wow, what a diffrence. the funny thing is i couldn't use my quickening. i think i need to have my mp all the way full for it. and i didn't have any ether's at all so i never got the chance. i beat the mark the old fashioned way.

btw, switching your gambits to use potions instead of cure during boss fights is definately better cause they use them so fast. i recommend that to anyone who might be having trouble. :p


welp, that's my experience so far.

theres one last worry i have about this game, i'm worried i'm gonna reach that old classic point later in the game, where you have to do something before a certain event or you can never go back again. (like completing certain sidequest before you enter soandso building in disk 3) you know...things like that. because of this, i've been trying to do every sidequest i can, but this early in the game, ther'es barely any i can do at all. it'd be great if someone could tell me "oh don't worry, you can backtrack EVERYWHERE right before you fight the "whatever" boss late in the game" that way i can have less worries for myself. i plan to have a perfect game. (or near perfect). i always enjoy doing all the extra stuff. :)


also, OMG FRAN IS SO FUCKING HOT AND HER VOICE IS SO AWESOME TOO OMG I CAN'T STAND IT >.<


so anyway, yes, this game is great. it's given me my game back. i was suffering badly though a "nothing seems fun anymore" phase lately. this game took it away. i'm very happy.

NorseFTX
11-03-2006, 11:52 AM
EHH!?!
This game was already out??
I thought it was coming later in November.....

I'm going to the game store today. >>

Agent0042
11-03-2006, 11:57 AM
Heh, yeah! It came out in the U.S. on Halloween! If you live in a country other than the U.S., it might not be available in your area yet. But otherwise, yeah, it's in stores now.

Zankard5
11-03-2006, 05:33 PM
ok! Now I really got to get my paws on the game. It sounds so freakin awsome. I mean it sounds similar to tacctice and I loved that game. One question, can u become a lancer/dragoon?

Zankard5
11-03-2006, 05:34 PM
Ok! Now I really got to get my paws on the game. It sounds so freakin awsome. I mean it sounds similar to tacctice and I loved that game. One question, can u become a lancer/dragoon?

Zankard5
11-03-2006, 05:35 PM
Ok! Now I really got to get my paws on the game. It sounds so freakin awsome. I mean it sounds similar to tacctice and I loved that game. One question, can u become a lancer/dragoon?

Zankard5
11-03-2006, 05:36 PM
wow! sorry about that my. My computer gliched up sorry.

Gilthanos
11-03-2006, 08:17 PM
This game almost reminds me of Tactics. I could NEVER remember all the names of the people in THAT game. This one is a bit easier, but still.

Gilthanos
11-03-2006, 10:13 PM
No you can't be a Dragoon. There is no jump command, sadly. >,<! I wish there were. There really aren't any "job specific" abilities in this game and that is one thing I am quite disappointed in. If you get all the technicks, you'll have more abilities at your disposal, but.. personaly I find it easier to just use regular attacks and magic, unless I'm fighting a big group. Then I use Traveler and Horology. Those are great.

dtpena
11-03-2006, 10:26 PM
I'm a lvlup whore too, the ratio so far for me is 1 hr/ 0.8 lv so to get to lv 80 I'll have to play about 100h, and to max out everyone it should take 125 app, but as in most games, last fiends give you few exp pts, so I think it should take me about 150h total to complete the game.
150h/$50= 1/3 dollar per hour, the cheapest entertainment ever, I love it.

and yeah, tactics names were tough, and very similar too

Agent0042
11-04-2006, 03:33 PM
General thoughts on the gameplay mechanics, etc.:


- I love the unprecedented (in a Final Fantasy game) that this game gives you to on and off-screen maps, bestiary, and other such items. This is exactly the sort of stuff that should have been in previous Final Fantasy games, but wasn't.

- I remember reading a review talking about how massive this game is and they're not kidding. There's so much to check out and do.

- Also loving how they finally given you true control of the camera with the right-analog stick. Great stuff.

- The battle mechanics are interesting. It feels kinda like Kingdom Hearts to me, but different. Of course, in this game, it's still turn-based, whereas with Kingdom Hearts, the Heartless and Nobodies just keep coming at you and there's no let-up in the middle of battle. Another difference is that in Kingdom Hearts, the battle menu is always on-screen in combat, but with this game, you call it up when you need it.

- Can't wait to get some additional party members and see what it's like to fight in this game with multiple players. And I'm really looking forward to summons.

- I saw a place to rent a chocobo and am looking forward to building up some gil and doing so to hear the chocobo theme. Oh, and I adore the versions of the Final Fantasy Prelude and Prologue they're using during the opening demo and loading screens.

Mailbox
11-04-2006, 03:41 PM
- I saw a place to rent a chocobo and am looking forward to building up some gil and doing so to hear the chocobo theme. Oh, and I adore the versions of the Final Fantasy Prelude and Prologue they're using during the opening demo and loading screens.
If you haven't heard the Chocobo Theme yet, you'll most likely love it. I haven't heard it in-game yet but since Roph is ace, he sent me the download for the OST. There's 2 different versions, I'm not sure if both are in-game but regardless, both are brilliant.

Penelo's Theme is really great, IMO.

Agent0042
11-04-2006, 03:43 PM
Sweetness. I think I will definitely see about getting the soundtrack for this game. I'm quite liking the music so far. Is the music for this game done by Nobuo Uematsu or someone else. I mean, I know the carryover themes like the Prelude and the chocobo theme etc. were originally composed by Uematsu, but what about the rest of the music?

Mailbox
11-04-2006, 04:03 PM
Most of the game's soundtrack was composed by Hitoshi Sakimoto, although Uematsu did Kiss Me Goodbye. The OST is 4 CDs and 100 tracks, or 474 MB. I also noticed along with the change in composer, Nomura didn't design these characters, Akihiko Yoshida did.

Agent0042
11-04-2006, 06:02 PM
Well, while the classics are nice, it's often nice to see some new blood as well. Glad to hear that Nobuo Uematsu is still doing at least a little of it, even if he can't do the entire soundtrack.

Gilthanos
11-04-2006, 07:34 PM
this is defintely not music that I could imagine throwing in a CD player and jogging to lol

gin
11-05-2006, 08:03 AM
Ive been playing for a few days now and I cant say that Im into it. Its feels so much like Drakengard; right down to the story line and game play. I say No Thanks. I wanted FF not a rip off. I guess I expected more, maybe an actual adventure game not a war mongering battle game. It just doesnt have that FF feel to me. On the up side, the graphics look great.

Agent0042
11-05-2006, 09:54 AM
Played some more last night. I'm must say, I'm surprised and pleased at the number of references to other Final Fantasy games I'm already seeing. I've already noticed references to magicite, Mist, espers, and there's a character named Terra.

iceberg325
11-05-2006, 12:32 PM
Ive been playing for a few days now and I cant say that Im into it. Its feels so much like Drakengard; right down to the story line and game play. I say No Thanks. I wanted FF not a rip off. I guess I expected more, maybe an actual adventure game not a war mongering battle game. It just doesnt have that FF feel to me. On the up side, the graphics look great.

Play it a bit more. The game is really good. I happen to like the battle system because I play alot of world of warcraft and FF11. The game IMO is really good. Maybe itll grow on you lol.

lenneth
11-05-2006, 12:48 PM
I picked this game up yesterday and have only played a bit. It hasn't drawn me in like previous FF games, but I'm still giving it a chance. The battle system is interesting, but on the lower level stuff I'm fighting now, it takes way too long. I guess compared to a turn-based battle system, its about the same, but it sure seems longer when you're sitting there, waiting for your guy to swing his sword.

There's a hell of a lot of terminology in the beginning of the game -- ship types, countries, cities, royalty, commanders, empires, etc. and they are all kind of thrown at you at once. At the moment, I'm not entirely sure what country/empire I'm in, lol D: But I'm certain I'll pick up on it soon. I know I'm in Dalmasca, but unsure if theres a broader name for the whole area or what. Anyway, thats minor.

Music so far is decent, looking forward to hearing more. Graphics are beautiful, as expected. Vaan looks a little funny, though. Penelo is too cute, without talking too much like a dumb blonde.

Anyway, as I said, I'm not very far in at all. I got owned by some dinosaur looking thing that I decided to attack, and got a bit frustrated. Licenses look neat, but I can see how they would get annoying. Looking forward to getting more into the actual bulk of the story, since I don't really know a lot about it at this point. Hopefully more storyline comes through soon to keep my interest.

Ilfirin
11-05-2006, 01:17 PM
I got the game monday night at midnight, and I love it. The graphics are amazing. The voices really do add something extra. Fran's voice in particular is amazing. I love the battling. When I first started getting quickingings, they were TOO powerful. This lasted maybe 10 hours (im 35-ish hours in, just left the garif village). I can no longer one-shot bosses and marks with them. I love the fact that no matter how much I've leveled up, the game still manages to be challenging. Games these days are way too easy, and this game is a nice relief. Honestly, I like basically everything about this game. I'm using Vaan with heavy armor, katana(combos rock), and a little bit of white magic. Basch with heavy armor, sword+shield, and some decent white magic, and Fran with a bow, mystic armor, and all sorts of magic. The only thing I can think of that would have made it better, is if it were two-player, like tales of symphonia for the gamecube. I've been playing this game like crazy, I love it!

Prak
11-05-2006, 01:27 PM
I've been playing it since Saturday morning, albeit not obsessively, so I've made quite a few observations at this point.

As Cassie says, quite a lot is thrown at you very quickly. However, I can't complain about that approach. Even if you don't get what they're talking about part of the time, it would have come off as being dumbed down if they explained every little term, so it basically sacrifices understanding for immersion.

Battle is interesting enough, I suppose, but it feels like the license board didn't have enough thought put into it. It's way too easy to wind up with characters that are exactly alike (at least as early in it as I am), especially with LP being as easy to obtain as it is. I'm not too keen on the way you can pick up licenses for things long before you ever find them. It basically puts you ahead of the curve and makes planning unimportant. You can just buy up lots of licenses for stuff and equip whatever you come across as needed. Basically, the system is dumbed down pretty badly and loses massive points for that.

Quickenings are just plain ridiculous. Things that would ordinarily be a tough fight go down like bitches when you hit them with one. That would be acceptable if not for the fact that all you have to do to recharge mana afterwards is just run around in circles for a minute. That makes it possible to use the same character's quickening in nearly every damn battle. I really hope the game's difficulty skyrockets to the point where you have to use them, since as it stands, everything I've heard about the game being rather difficult is absolutely wrong. Maybe when people said it was hard, it was just because they got eaten by the fucking saurian in the newbie area. Putting that there was retarded, by the way. If the only way S-E could make the game challenging is by throwing random high-level monsters into areas you'll visit when you're lower and letting them eat you once before you figure out you have to just dodge them, that's pathetic.

I have to say, however, that the story seems well-scripted so far and the voice acting is much better than I expected. Of course, I've hardly scratched the surface of that, so the jury is still out.

Basically, it's a bit annoying to me that the game's presentation would be an evolution from the previous games, but the fundamental mechanics of it seem to retain the same brokenness I've always despised throughout the later games in the series.

I'll keep playing and maybe these impressions won't hold up, but so far the game seems massively overrated.

Sackboy
11-05-2006, 04:12 PM
Most of the game's soundtrack was composed by Hitoshi Sakimoto, although Uematsu did Kiss Me Goodbye. The OST is 4 CDs and 100 tracks, or 474 MB. I also noticed along with the change in composer, Nomura didn't design these characters, Akihiko Yoshida did.

My computer sucks so much ass, I had to DL it to my 2 gig memory stick. Hopfuly I'll have my new laptop by the end of the year.


As Cassie says, quite a lot is thrown at you very quickly. However, I can't complain about that approach. Even if you don't get what they're talking about part of the time, it would have come off as being dumbed down if they explained every little term, so it basically sacrifices understanding for immersion.

And every time they dumb it down and explain every little turm it seems to take forever and ever and ever and ever. With XII, they'll hit you with the info all at once in the biggining, but at least through out the game you'll get it.

Agent0042
11-05-2006, 05:16 PM
When I went into the palace in Rabanastre and hit the save point, it told me "You won't be able to get out easily. You might want to save in a different slot." That was unexpectedly and surprisingly helpful. Might have been nice to have that in certain situations on some of the FF games.

Mailbox
11-05-2006, 05:21 PM
Quickenings are just plain ridiculous. Things that would ordinarily be a tough fight go down like bitches when you hit them with one. That would be acceptable if not for the fact that all you have to do to recharge mana afterwards is just run around in circles for a minute. That makes it possible to use the same character's quickening in nearly every damn battle.
Prak, you fail ;_;; Be logical here, no ones going to run in circles for who knows how long to use a mist charge every damn battle. They're there at your disposal and they hit for alot but losing all your MP sucks. The bosses early on are quite easy; later bosses even with Mist charges I've had problems. Especially when my MP is 0 and the mo-fucka isn't dead.

Personally, I liked how the FFX Overdrives worked because you wouldn't be totally screwed in the middle of a boss battle. This new way of doing it is certainly going to pose a challenge. You have to make strategy and sacrifices, we'll just see how it panes out.

Oh and about the License Board, yours characters are going to have the same skills in the beginning respectively but farther on, you'll see who you want in your main party and how you want to specify them. By the way, if you think the License Board is easy, it takes 13,180 LP to fill the entire thing in not including the Esper and Quickening Panels which are about 1705 LP, which are split amonst 6 of the party members. So the chances of everyone having all the same stuff is like O_o


When I went into the palace in Rabanastre and hit the save point, it told me "You won't be able to get out easily. You might want to save in a different slot." That was unexpectedly and surprisingly helpful. Might have been nice to have that in certain situations on some of the FF games.
Rofl, when I first saw that I got scared and was like....oh shit. But it does say that in multiple areas, so you should be alright and not cram your memory card. I haven't had any problems yet.

Agent0042
11-05-2006, 05:38 PM
Nah, I'll just keep a regular savefile and use a backup slot in those situations. Probably smart to have backup file around anyway, just in case.

iceberg325
11-05-2006, 05:40 PM
Prak, you fail ;_;; Be logical here, no ones going to run in circles for who knows how long to use a mist charge every damn battle. They're there at your disposal and they hit for alot but losing all your MP sucks. The bosses early on are quite easy; later bosses even with Mist charges I've had problems. Especially when my MP is 0 and the mo-fucka isn't dead.

Personally, I liked how the FFX Overdrives worked because you wouldn't be totally screwed in the middle of a boss battle. This new way of doing it is certainly going to pose a challenge. You have to make strategy and sacrifices, we'll just see how it panes out.

Oh and about the License Board, yours characters are going to have the same skills in the beginning respectively but farther on, you'll see who you want in your main party and how you want to specify them. By the way, if you think the License Board is easy, it takes 13,180 LP to fill the entire thing in not including the Esper and Quickening Panels which are about 1705 LP, which are split amonst 6 of the party members. So the chances of everyone having all the same stuff is like O_o


Rofl, when I first saw that I got scared and was like....oh shit. But it does say that in multiple areas, so you should be alright and not cram your memory card. I haven't had any problems yet.

Prak is right about the board. Just keep getting points while leveling and just open up more and more and you'll eventually have whatever you need. I prefer equiping an item as soon as I get it like in every other game but whatever, ill play as is.

So far the game is highly addicitive. I do have to disagree with Prak though. IMO the game is not highly over rated. Alot of people really had low expectations due to the drastic changes in the FF formula but the over all response has been positive so its maybe a good thing for the FF series.

The level of detail on each character is impressive (most notable the bounty hunter Ba'Gamnan)

Tact
11-05-2006, 10:58 PM
haha. i was surprised too. once i figured out how quickenings worked, i tried it on in that boss battle in that ship, and bam. it was over, i was like "wtf". O_o i took off like 80% of his life like nothing. it was litterally anti-climactic. (if i used that word correctly lol)

but when it comes to the marks, its still hella hard. lol marks are like 10 times harder than the toughest boss you might meet 2 hours later in the games main story line. it just sucks. now i have to wait to kill my marks. lol


and the stuff that bugged me about the board is not knowing what to put points in. but i finally figured it out. i decided with one set path that could have me play with nearly all types of weapons in the whole game. i had to make everyone use two types of weapons to make that work. i made balthier take up poles aside from his gun, i gave fran spears aside from bows. and i'm having ashe and penelo eat up the whole maces/measures/rods/staves block for themselves. basche is going swords (all kinds) and hammers/axes, and vaan is gonna do daggers and some swords. i basically have nearly everything used up cept xbows and bombs. but those are mixed in the gun and dagger blocks so i might get them anyway just to oncover the later levels.


now that i'm decided, i'm not afraid to liscence stuff anymore. lol i was always scared of putting points somewhere where i prolly shouldn't have. but then i forget lp is neverending. just takes some time to get more. pfft. im so noob. lol

Joey
11-05-2006, 11:02 PM
I think Prak meant is was overrated in the sense that just about every person to review the game gave it a perfect score.


But it is badass because I have an accessory called the Golden Amulet that doubles the LP that character gets from monsters.
Still it takes a long time to gather enough LP for those large licenses that need 150+ LP.

But I love the License Board because it is somewhat like the Sphere Grid, but you have absolute freedom.

And I hate Quickenings as well.

Tact
11-05-2006, 11:07 PM
no. i think prak just hates that it's too easy. he wants to die a couple times i guess so he can go back to his last save point 2 hours ago and do it all over again. i guess that's what he calls fun. O_o


and i always avoid reviews/previews/ratings and everything on any ff game like the plauge. who needs that shit?

even today i still don't know what the general public thinks about it. i only know what the people at ffs have said in this forum. and so far its mostly just "it's cool" opinions. :p

Sackboy
11-06-2006, 12:26 AM
Prak has always been an advocate of challenge.

Mailbox
11-06-2006, 05:52 AM
But it is badass because I have an accessory called the Golden Amulet that doubles the LP that character gets from monsters.
That is one of the reasons the License Board isn't top notch, shit that makes it twice as easy considering it is already. But whatever, 13,180 is a shitload to achieve, gg.

and IMO, Accessories and Tecnicks are just about if not pointless.

Prak
11-06-2006, 07:58 AM
For the record, I'm at the point in the game where I've just made a bitch of Judge Ghis on the Leviathan.

Gina, I did run around to recharge mana in quite a few situations. Hell, I did it in the middle of the Ghis battle just so I could top off Vaan's MP to fire off another quickening.

The amount of LP it takes to complete the board may look daunting, but when you consider how easy it is to come by, it really isn't that much.

Joey is right about what I meant by overrated. As usual, the game's flaws are being glossed over by biased reviewers and fans of the series alike, leaving level-headed people like me as the only ones who can point them out.

Silfurabbit
11-06-2006, 11:08 AM
I have the sound track for the game but I dont have it yet. I'm gonna buy a PS2 and spend 90 bucks on this weekend it looks so awsome.

Mr. Bunniesworth
11-06-2006, 11:19 AM
... I've been following the discussion quite closely, and I can honestly say the game is sounding quite interesting. I'm really looking forward to it finally hitting the shelves here, but I wish it would hurry up!!

Thus far everything I've read about it is highly complimentary, which is typical of the whole series. I've heard it constantly be likened to Final Fantasy IX in terms of the fact that both are the final installments of the series on their respective consoles; and I have to say... any similarities between XII and IX are a welcome addition to me. So yeah, I really have very high expectations for this game and I expect it to really push the envelope.

Gilthanos
11-06-2006, 12:36 PM
Prak, you fail ;_;; Be logical here, no ones going to run in circles for who knows how long to use a mist charge every damn battle. They're there at your disposal and they hit for alot but losing all your MP sucks. The bosses early on are quite easy; later bosses even with Mist charges I've had problems. Especially when my MP is 0 and the mo-fucka isn't dead.

Personally, I liked how the FFX Overdrives worked because you wouldn't be totally screwed in the middle of a boss battle. This new way of doing it is certainly going to pose a challenge. You have to make strategy and sacrifices, we'll just see how it panes out.

I agree. Bosses later on with like 100000+ HP aren't gonna go down so easily even if you use all six of your character's Quickenings. They help, and yeah.. you can use some ethers to do em again, but that's a waste of resources. You don't even need ALL of your characters MP to do a quickening. If one person can do one, you can still pull off a 15 Chain or more Quickening with some ease. Prak is right... bosses early on can be one shotted, but .. that pretty much ends with the demon walls. haha.

SupraDerk
11-06-2006, 01:30 PM
I gotta say that I didn't think there was any way that this game could live up to the hype that was built around it, but so far for me it has. I freaking love this game.

I got it last tuesday, but I wasn't able to start playing it til saturday (huzzah college) but this has been the first game since ... probably FFX (although I didn't really like X), that has kept my attention. Like in the last 4 years, it's the only game that I WANT to keep playing. I'm about 14 hours into it now and every time I see a cutscene I'm still amazed at how gorgeous it is. I love the music (even though Uematsu didn't produce it) and even the battle system which I though at first was gonna suck has grown on me. The gambit system is pure genius!

All in all, I'm pretty sure FFXII is gonna be put up there on the same level as VII. So far it's actually beating out Sega Night's into dreams as my favorite game... ever.

d_empiror
11-06-2006, 02:08 PM
i feel excited when i play the game, its Fantastic, i got and understand the fighting how it goes,

Everything is nice for me at the moment.

Mailbox
11-06-2006, 02:12 PM
I agree. Bosses later on with like 100000+ HP aren't gonna go down so easily even if you use all six of your character's Quickenings. They help, and yeah.. you can use some ethers to do em again, but that's a waste of resources. You don't even need ALL of your characters MP to do a quickening. If one person can do one, you can still pull off a 15 Chain or more Quickening with some ease. Prak is right... bosses early on can be one shotted, but .. that pretty much ends with the demon walls. haha.
Demon Walls, more like aggitating bastards ;_;;


All in all, I'm pretty sure FFXII is gonna be put up there on the same level as VII.
No, don't ever say that. FFXII has already passed VII's heap of shit.

J. Peterman
11-06-2006, 02:38 PM
Just beat it last night and I really think I should've played Suikoden II instead.

But that's just because Suikoden II is the greatest game ever made.

Gilthanos
11-06-2006, 02:57 PM
heh.. well i kinda take back my last post.. cause I just whooped up on Bergan and Mateus with one quickening each.

Adrammelch is still whoopin my butt though. All my characters are lvl 30 and .. man that guy is TOUGH.

Sackboy
11-06-2006, 03:42 PM
For the record, I'm at the point in the game where I've just made a bitch of Judge Ghis on the Leviathan.

I just did the same last night. In in the sandsea right now with everyone between lv. 11 and 13.


Demon Walls, more like aggitating bastards ;_;;

I can't wait!


No, don't ever say that. FFXII has already passed VII's heap of shit.

I wouldn't go as far as calling VII a heap of shit, but I will say XII has surpassed it. 6, 12 and Tactics are by far my favorite FF games. I can live without the rest.


I agree. Bosses later on with like 100000+ HP aren't gonna go down so easily even if you use all six of your character's Quickenings. They help, and yeah.. you can use some ethers to do em again, but that's a waste of resources. You don't even need ALL of your characters MP to do a quickening. If one person can do one, you can still pull off a 15 Chain or more Quickening with some ease. Prak is right... bosses early on can be one shotted, but .. that pretty much ends with the demon walls. haha.

It's possable they'll go down easy. You'll eventualy get more time to do more quickenings, (is quickenings even a real word?), on top of having more power which should knock-off a considerable amount of HP. But that is a waist of resources and takes the challenge away from the game that makes it fun. And in all FF games, the bosses at first are always too easy. I just can't wait to get to the demon walls that you and Twilight have talked so highly about. I'll be sure to tell it you 2 said hi.

Ilfirin
11-06-2006, 05:28 PM
damn demon walls...watch out, they'll x-zone you. I was thinking quickinings were overly-powerful, too, but when I got to the demon walls, and my quickining didn't kill it, boy was I surprised(pleasently, I'm a fan of challenge too). After I left the garif village, but before going to the jungle, etc, I went and killed a bunch of marks way beyond my level. Once you get to a certain point, quickingings basically serve as a finisher move. Once the enemies' life point totals get over 20k, using a quickining early on in the battle is just gonna leave you high and dry with no mana. If you want a challenge, go fight the white mousse mark before going to the jungle. Obviously, having a certain guest at that point helps, but I doubt its possible at that point without him :-)

SupraDerk
11-06-2006, 06:49 PM
No, don't ever say that. FFXII has already passed VII's heap of shit.

FFVII wasn't a heap of shit, but I do agree that FFXII is soooooooooo much better. What I was trying to say was that FFXII will become the standard that most games are held to, much like FFVII is now ( or rather probably was now)

Agent0042
11-06-2006, 06:54 PM
I thought X had sort of become the defacto standard and VII was only a standard for those who haven't really tried many other games.

Ilfirin
11-06-2006, 07:22 PM
I thought X had sort of become the defacto standard and VII was only a standard for those who haven't really tried many other games.

10 sucks. Other than pretty graphics, and a semi-decent story, it had nothing going for it.

Joey
11-06-2006, 07:28 PM
Gilthanos I am surpised.

From many of your posts I would guess that you are at least 3-5 hours of the story ahead of me.

But you are only Level 30?

I guess I spent too much time in the Ozmone Plains...

Sackboy
11-06-2006, 07:36 PM
10 sucks. Other than pretty graphics, and a semi-decent story, it had nothing going for it.

agreed. I felt X was over rated. The graphics, however, were not always pretty or perfect. Half the time I always felt they could have been better, but hey - it was the first FF on PS2.


Gilthanos I am surpised.

From many of your posts I would guess that you are at least 3-5 hours of the story ahead of me.

But you are only Level 30?

I guess I spent too much time in the Ozmone Plains...

Dude, I don't spend enough time playing. I'm only at lvl 13 at the sandsea.

Joey
11-06-2006, 07:38 PM
Sandsea is like the first real "get-chain-and-level-up" area that I took advantage of.

I think my characters are all around like 34-36 right now.

Ilfirin
11-06-2006, 07:40 PM
Gilthanos I am surpised.

From many of your posts I would guess that you are at least 3-5 hours of the story ahead of me.

But you are only Level 30?

I guess I spent too much time in the Ozmone Plains...

I'm level 30 and I'm currently passing through the jungle after visiting the viera village, so we both spent too much time somewhere. :-)

Sackboy
11-06-2006, 08:09 PM
Dang, I'm so behind. I've been busy back and forth with other things.

Tact
11-06-2006, 08:24 PM
great. now i'm worried. you guys are scaring me with the demon walls and here i thought maybe i was more than prepared because all my chars are 18 and i am JUST BARELY going in to fight them for the first time. maybe 18 is enough. i explored all of the sandsea areas intentionally rather than taking the quick route. even almost got killed by those giant energy balls which i have no idea what their doing there. O_o

Mailbox
11-06-2006, 08:28 PM
10 sucks. Other than pretty graphics, and a semi-decent story, it had nothing going for it.
You fail, gtfo.

and may I remind you all, this isn't a race to the finish gentlemen.

Gilthanos
11-06-2006, 08:52 PM
Gilthanos I am surpised.

From many of your posts I would guess that you are at least 3-5 hours of the story ahead of me.

But you are only Level 30?

I guess I spent too much time in the Ozmone Plains...

You MUST spend too much time lvling, because I already spend 2-3 hours a day just lvling up and getting LP. Liscenses for the characters in the directions I wanted them to go are already done. I'm now giving Basch magic and Penelo Technicks because there's no where really else to go. Alot of the armor and weapon liscenses i can get, but I can't get or don't have the items yet to fulfill them so I see it as a waste. I've got almost all the augments for all the characters now...

I guess then that's why I'm having such a hard time with Adrammelch beause I'm just not high enough level. I can totallly believe that. I'm not, by any means, trying to get through the story quickly. I don't want to. I rather enjoy spending time to level up. I guess I'll have to do more. The shrine where Mateus is in is a good place to do so. BTW... I killed him pretty quickly.. he didn't even touch me. Quickenings are good.. I don't care what people say.. if you got an ability that works.. use it. I use quickenings on bosses because they work. I'd rather one shot a boss and stand over his body and say, "YOU GOT KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT!!" rather than the other way around just for the added challenge.

I do need to level up some more. I know that now, because there are some areas that I'm struggling in, like the caves where Adrammelch is and the waterway in Rabanstre. Those mobs are in the high 30's and and I'm in the low 30's.

Also.. I have ALL of my characters at lvl 30-31 now... I think it takes more time to get them ALL up there. Some people don't level all of their characters at the same time. I do.

Gilthanos
11-06-2006, 08:54 PM
Sandsea is like the first real "get-chain-and-level-up" area that I took advantage of.

I think my characters are all around like 34-36 right now.

Another post.. >,<!!

I hung out there the longest for the same exact reason, but XP started getting crappy for me. Golmore jungle is still decent XP for me and I can nab some outstanding loot from the panthers. I spend alot of time in Golmore as well.

bringthechaos
11-06-2006, 09:36 PM
I really need help with something.

Sackboy
11-06-2006, 09:41 PM
I really need help with something.

k.

bringthechaos
11-06-2006, 09:42 PM
Were do I find penelo??? im like at Algania or whatever

bringthechaos
11-06-2006, 09:44 PM
Wow sorry that was my brother... Im at Nalbina and I have to save penelo but were should I go? any help?

Sackboy
11-06-2006, 09:44 PM
She shows up in the regular corse of the game. You don't "find" her. She's written in to join your party.

edit: it's not like Yuffie or Vincent in VII.

Cloud87
11-06-2006, 09:44 PM
Algania? Never heard before.

bringthechaos
11-06-2006, 09:46 PM
Wow sorry that was my brother... Im at Nalbina and I have to save penelo but were should I go? any help? ??

Cloud87
11-06-2006, 09:48 PM
Go back to Dalmasca and talk to Balthier in the Western Aerodrome.
Inside Aerodrome, you can find Balthier.

In case you haven't found Balthier just yet, you can find him in Sandsea

bringthechaos
11-06-2006, 09:50 PM
Thank you.

bringthechaos
11-06-2006, 09:50 PM
Ill be posted if I have any trouble.

Sackboy
11-06-2006, 10:02 PM
God speed. :p

bringthechaos
11-06-2006, 10:11 PM
Is there any place to buy tele stones in Nalbina

Cloud87
11-06-2006, 10:14 PM
Nope. Use the Airship to back to Rabanastre.
Or walk there. Not that far.

bringthechaos
11-06-2006, 10:15 PM
Fuck im in Nalbina Town And I want to get to the Auerodrome or sandsea what is the best way to get there.

Cloud87
11-06-2006, 10:19 PM
If you are at Nalbina, go on North. There is Nalbina Aerodrome.
Go back to Rabanastre to buy some Teleport Stone then.

bringthechaos
11-06-2006, 10:20 PM
nvm I got it

Joey
11-06-2006, 11:31 PM
Wow reading this I am pissed off.

1.) You have a World Map for a reason.
2.) Full FFXII Guides Here ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Gilthanos
11-07-2006, 12:56 AM
LMAO.. never mind strat guides and [Only registered and activated users can see links]

Sackboy
11-07-2006, 03:31 PM
FUCKING DEMON WALL!!!
:notgood:

dtpena
11-07-2006, 03:39 PM
ROTF well, you can run from it if you want..

Ilfirin
11-07-2006, 04:55 PM
ROTF well, you can run from it if you want..

only the first one. And don't, they give decent stuff. After you beat bosses, montblanc gives you stuff. So go fight them. Level up first or something.

Yui
11-07-2006, 06:49 PM
I just bought FFXII for $37.99 from Target.

It was awesome. Everything was unexpected. The characters are more unique than I thought, and hell, the best thing I like in this game is the whole story, and how the characters speak. The scenes are awesome!(LOTR and Star Wars combined, plus their Middle-East accents). I was happy when I got this game, and can't stop playing it. Right now, I'm heading to the tomb of Raithwall! ^^

Ubernoob
11-07-2006, 06:51 PM
I like it.

I'd like it more if I would have made the right choices.

Agent0042
11-07-2006, 06:53 PM
Well you don't plan to play just once do you? Try it again! Try some different things, have some fun.

Sackboy
11-07-2006, 07:25 PM
ROTF well, you can run from it if you want..

Nah... I ain't goin' out like a chump. Ain't got time for no jibba-jabba.


It was awesome. Everything was unexpected. The characters are more unique than I thought, and hell, the best thing I like in this game is the whole story, and how the characters speak. The scenes are awesome!(LOTR and Star Wars combined, plus their Middle-East accents). I was happy when I got this game, and can't stop playing it.

Amen. I especialy like the voices and middle-east accents. Totaly made up for the shitty voices in X.


FUCKING DEMON WALL!!!
:notgood:

pfft. Tell me about it. :notgood:

bringthechaos
11-07-2006, 07:30 PM
Shit how is the best way to defeat the judge and his people at the end of that place. They are pretty fucking hard.

Gilthanos
11-07-2006, 07:51 PM
Judge at the end of what place.

OH and if you defeat the demon wall you can access a secret area to get a COOL sword. (which you can buy MUUUUCH later on in the game)

Sackboy
11-09-2006, 10:51 PM
TAKE THAT DEMON WALL!! WHO'S MY LIL' BITCH NOW?!?!?!



oh, and I like how that last appendage is left behind and tips over into dust. haha..

Olde
11-09-2006, 10:56 PM
I was so fucking close to beating the first one my first time going there. His HP bar was about a 1/4 inch from the end when he cornered me. :mad:

Just today I slaughtered his ass in fifteen seconds only using physical attacks. :p

harm210
11-09-2006, 11:47 PM
ALL MY CHARACTERS ARE AT LEVEL 19 AT THE GOLMORE JUNGLE WHEN IM ABOUT TO FACE *?*?*SPOILER*?*?* ELDER WYRM, AM I UNDERLEVELED???

Ubernoob
11-09-2006, 11:49 PM
Is he really that hard? I'm about to fight him after I get through the desert.

and I know about the cool sword :)

I'm going to try and nab it.

Olde
11-10-2006, 12:04 AM
to harm210, i was like level 25, and that was a pretty fair fight. He's got

*SPOILER*

about 70,000 HP, plus, uses a nasty status attack on all characters. Quickenings, even if you have them at level two for three characters, is not likely to take down even half of his health. I got slain when I first tried with characters at level 21. so I'd say you should level up.

* END SPOILER *

to Ubernoob, the sword really isn't worth the frustration.

Agent0042
11-10-2006, 02:04 AM
I adore the awesome moogles in this game. Just check my new avatar.

harm210
11-10-2006, 10:32 AM
to harm210, i was like level 25, and that was a pretty fair fight. He's got

*SPOILER*

about 70,000 HP, plus, uses a nasty status attack on all characters. Quickenings, even if you have them at level two for three characters, is not likely to take down even half of his health. I got slain when I first tried with characters at level 21. so I'd say you should level up.

* END SPOILER *

to Ubernoob, the sword really isn't worth the frustration.



yea i tried and i actually got him down to a third of his HP but fuck then he starts slaughtering my characters like nothing... im gonna level up a bit more cuz u get good battle chains in GOLMORE Jungle anyways...

300zxJ
11-10-2006, 12:06 PM
i think this game is great so far which means it can only get better having played other FF's

the demon wall (earlier post) i thought was really easy just use the quickenings and then switch out and use the other quickenings and they drop fast, i didnt get hit by either wall but im guessing you need to get good quickening combos to do that

Creek
11-10-2006, 02:32 PM
I'm on my way to the tomb.

The game is great so far but the only voice I don't like is Vaan's. When you'd think he'd have emotion, he's kinda monotone. >.>

And my friend's dying to know what pairings there are *wary sigh* Anyone know? *shoos her away* We've got a bet going XD $10 for either VaanxAshe or PeneloxVaan.

300zxJ
11-10-2006, 02:45 PM
And my friend's dying to know what pairings there are *wary sigh* Anyone know? *shoos her away* We've got a bet going XD $10 for either VaanxAshe or PeneloxVaan.

ya i dunno either id like to kno too

Ubernoob
11-10-2006, 03:09 PM
Thanks Olde I think I'm going to pass on the sword.

I'll try your stadegy today 300zxJ. :)

300zxJ
11-10-2006, 03:12 PM
I'll try your stadegy today 300zxJ.

aight man good luck i got quickening combos of around 13 each time so try to do that i dunno if itll work with less

sage71198
11-10-2006, 03:33 PM
Can some one please tell me why I cannot save a pic to my signature. I have tried multiple times. All of the pics I have tried have been within the requirements.

Prak
11-10-2006, 03:38 PM
Try asking in the proper forum.

deluzional336
11-10-2006, 10:19 PM
I'm on my way to the tomb.

The game is great so far but the only voice I don't like is Vaan's. When you'd think he'd have emotion, he's kinda monotone. >.>

And my friend's dying to know what pairings there are *wary sigh* Anyone know? *shoos her away* We've got a bet going XD $10 for either VaanxAshe or PeneloxVaan.

I don't think a 19yr old girl being princess would date a 17 yr old hood rat :p

Aladdin does not count, they're about same age.

Sackboy
11-10-2006, 11:53 PM
I don't think a 19yr old girl being princess would date a 17 yr old hood rat :p

Aladdin does not count, they're about same age.

And it's disney - they strive on "boy meets girl" happy endings.

300zxJ
11-11-2006, 12:54 AM
very true ixnine, i doubt ashe is gonna go with vaan cuz of that and plus the game seems to be (minor spoiler) showing she really wants rasler back but cant as we all kno

Sackboy
11-11-2006, 12:59 AM
I'm just not understanding how anybody is expecting the 2 to hook up - Is it because out of all 6 characters it's coming from Vaan's point of view in which the story centers mostly around Ashe? I never expected or saw the 2 having a love story because it doesn't make since nor to they even match. I have yet to hear of or see anything that implies a relationship between the 2. If anybody is going to hook up with Ashe it would either be Me or Basch.

Creek
11-11-2006, 04:41 AM
T.T But I have ten bucks on AshexVaan

Einhander
11-11-2006, 04:53 AM
God Damn It! Ashelia's Mine!!!!

Nightowl9910
11-11-2006, 11:41 AM
... I've been following the discussion quite closely, and I can honestly say the game is sounding quite interesting. I'm really looking forward to it finally hitting the shelves here, but I wish it would hurry up!!

x 2. From what i've been reading in here, i'm not expecting the game to be perfect, but even so I'm really looking forward to it!

iceberg325
11-11-2006, 11:44 AM
x 2. From what i've been reading in here, i'm not expecting the game to be perfect, but even so I'm really looking forward to it!

Its not perfect but so far IMO, its a great game. Its a breath of fresh air for the FF series. When does it come out for you?

Nightowl9910
11-11-2006, 11:51 AM
Its not perfect but so far IMO, its a great game. Its a breath of fresh air for the FF series. When does it come out for you?

I'm definitley going to give it a go, as soon as I get the chance! =)

It won't be coming out in the UK till around early 2007 :(

300zxJ
11-11-2006, 01:08 PM
this game just gets better and better as it goes on

bringthechaos
11-11-2006, 02:18 PM
Um I dont really care for who hooks up in the game, but anywayz were do you get your first summon?

Sackboy
11-11-2006, 02:50 PM
Um I dont really care for who hooks up in the game, but anywayz were do you get your first summon?

It's Belias. He's in the story line so you'll get him. I'd rather not say when/where because it'll be more exciting when the time comes.

bringthechaos
11-11-2006, 04:43 PM
Yea thank you though.

bringthechaos
11-11-2006, 04:43 PM
is it far in story or short?

Sackboy
11-11-2006, 06:48 PM
is it far in story or short?

Hard to say. I'm still playing so I'm not sure how much is left in the game to say if it's far into the story or not.

Van Finel
11-11-2006, 08:21 PM
short

*KIND OF SPOILER* About pairing.




I'm pretty sure its with Ashe because she keeps seeing images of her dead husband, but when she gets closer the image, it vanishes and Vaan is standing in it's place. Vaan is also the only one other than Ashe who can see these images.


*END SPOILER*

Shashkana
11-11-2006, 11:09 PM
I bought the game yesterday and I love it. I haven't played a Final Fantasy game in a long time (I haven't beaten VII yet - too long) but at least this game has a lot more to it. I've enjoyed it a lot!!

I'm going to try and master it (Max levels, all licences and so on).

iceberg325
11-12-2006, 08:54 AM
I bought the game yesterday and I love it. I haven't played a Final Fantasy game in a long time (I haven't beaten VII yet - too long) but at least this game has a lot more to it. I've enjoyed it a lot!!

I'm going to try and master it (Max levels, all licences and so on).

Yeah this game has a shitload of content. Just look at the license board, all the hunts from your guild and the pubs and you are looking at well over 100 hours of gameplay. Lets not forget the sky pirates den. Im level 18 I believe and I have 20 hrs played already. Im not even far in the game. Im loving every minute of it so far.

MeruRikku
11-12-2006, 09:58 AM
Don't forget getting all the espers and the little sidequests such as the Cockatrice part.

Van Finel
11-12-2006, 09:58 AM
I'm surprised FF XII was able to make this game ungodly long without making it become repetive over time. I'm lvl 30 and i only have 1 esper so far

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 01:11 PM
I'm lvl 30 and i only have 1 esper so far

me too man, except im lvl 32... a whole two more lvls wow

Van Finel
11-12-2006, 01:24 PM
me too man, except im lvl 32... a whole two more lvls wow

Damn *runs to ps2 to lvl characters more*. Where are you at in the game?

Shashkana
11-12-2006, 01:35 PM
The odd thing is, you can only reach level 99. I think that it should be higher - like Final Fantasy X, but not that extreme - that was just unreal.

It does although, take longer to level up. I'm only level 8 or so, and I've played 7.5 hours and I just met Fran and the other guy in the sewers.

The only thing I really want to know is where is the treasure with the spear that you're not supposed to open (yet), and when do you actually open it?

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 01:39 PM
haha ya i spend a lot of time grinding... i am at the stilshrine of miriam on the last boss

Van Finel
11-12-2006, 02:29 PM
Yeah same here, that area is giving me troubles considering the enemies right before the shrine were loads easier

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 02:34 PM
its going easy for me i killed the first boss with one quickening attack so im hoping to beat the second with two considering my quickening against the first dealt 18000+

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 02:38 PM
I haven't played a Final Fantasy game in a long time (I haven't beaten VII yet - too long)

VII isnt to long man, that game is the shit!!

Mailbox
11-12-2006, 02:44 PM
VII isnt to long man, that game is the shit!!
Shut up please, kthx.

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 02:59 PM
little kid... do you cry about anything dumber than that shit? if you look at the posts youd see noone was talking to you k bye

Sackboy
11-12-2006, 03:00 PM
Shut up please, kthx.

*sighs* Oh, Gina. I love your hatred for VII. lol.

As for my progress report - I'm on my way to the Henne Mines, but I've been building levels, LP, EXP, etc. by killing off Zaghnal's, Zu's and the occasional Black Chocobos since last night. Everyone is at levels 21, 22 and Vaan is at 23. As for Quickenings, (Which I still believe is not a word), Vaan and Fran only need 1 more each.


little kid... do you cry about anything dumber than that shit? if you look at the posts youd see noone was talking to you k bye

Hey, show some respect. Wether she know it or even cares, that's my home girl. Shut your mouth when speaking to her.

Nightowl9910
11-12-2006, 03:09 PM
Yeah this game has a shitload of content. Just look at the license board, all the hunts from your guild and the pubs and you are looking at well over 100 hours of gameplay.

I'm glad to hear that. I got the idea, from something I read, that the average completion time would only be around 70 hours which I did feel a tad suprised at, at the time. Still saying that, I don't think that was supposed to include any of the sidequest stuff.

DeathShining
11-12-2006, 04:23 PM
FFXII RULES! Just how good can a game get? So far ive done 40hours 41mins ive got 2 espers and characters levels range from 27 - 38, i dont want it to end!

Ubernoob
11-12-2006, 04:31 PM
I'm like 8 hours in and my characters range from 9-15. I love this game so much!

I've got quickenings for Vaan, Ashe, Balther, Bacsh!

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 04:41 PM
i am now done with judge bergan it took a one attack from my main party and then a 8hit quickening to make him drop...

my main party are now lvl 32's and the others are 30. everyone has all their quickenings but theyve had them since around lvl 25

this game is the shit!

harm210
11-12-2006, 04:44 PM
Im like 15+ hrs. in i already have level 2 quickenings for ashe, vaan, and penelo and balthier, but i still cant f'in beat elder WYRM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joey
11-12-2006, 05:29 PM
Actually thinking about it, this game is quite long.
I have 43 hours on this game and I am level 53 and just now leaving Archades.
And FFX, I have 39 hours and I had just beat Omega.

Based off this I am concluding that FFXII is loaded with enough extra content to keep you occupied.

Ubernoob
11-12-2006, 05:33 PM
Thank God!

If WYRM really as hard as everyone says?

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 05:36 PM
the wrym wasnt to hard for me its just you gotta keep the person its attacking away from the others so that hopefully its effects wont hit them

Ubernoob
11-12-2006, 05:40 PM
Okay I was getting kind of nervous. :)

Thanks.

bringthechaos
11-12-2006, 05:44 PM
Um can someone tell me what to do on the Breakers like the specail attack what do I push for vaans? before the time runs out I dont really get it?

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 06:20 PM
Okay I was getting kind of nervous. :)

Thanks.

no problem, i hope it helps you.


Um can someone tell me what to do on the Breakers like the specail attack what do I push for vaans? before the time runs out I dont really get it?

the quickenings? it depends on what position the person is in your party, and if there is no symbol next to it (X,square,or triangle) then press R2 until there is one, you gotta be fast

bringthechaos
11-12-2006, 06:27 PM
Oh so whatever it says on the screen?

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 06:46 PM
ya if it says triangle hit triangle, x hit x and same with square

bringthechaos
11-12-2006, 06:47 PM
I see I got it I just got done beating the Fire bird at the Tomb.

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 06:48 PM
ahh yeah quickenings really help with that bastard

Van Finel
11-12-2006, 06:54 PM
for some reason when i use quickenings, it does about as much dmg as a normal attack.

Mailbox
11-12-2006, 06:57 PM
little kid... do you cry about anything dumber than that shit? if you look at the posts youd see noone was talking to you k bye
Wow, you really are a retard. If you're going to flaunt your shitty Sephiroth avatar and FFVII fanboy then do it somewhere else because I most certainly don't want to hear about it. "ZOMG BEST GAME EVAR!!!1!!" I also, don't give a shit who you were talking to and I will comment about how incorrect your posts are. FFVII sucks my imaginary purple cock and if you're going to be a little prick, you'll be sucking it too.

Hell, I even said 'please' when I told you to shut up.

But anyway, as far as FF12 progression goes; I don't play all that much. I'm still picking up and practicing new routines for Para Para from the e-web and sitting on 4chan too much. Ashe, Penelo, and Fran are still my main party and double the level the men are. The end.

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 07:09 PM
your calling me a retard... ok, dumbass im "flaunting" anything and ya i like VII, who the fuck cares? these are FINAL FANTASY forums moron! i was having a conversation with people about the game so dont try to but in and talk shit because you were beatin as a child and most likely punked in school. not once did i say "ZOMG BEST GAME EVAR!!!" i said "that game is the shit, and i said the same for XII because i like both pretty much equally. i dont care what you want to see or hear im not hear to please you, when you want to start conflicts over nothing. oh, so you suck at the game? thats cool! well if your gonna make these idiotic accusations take your lame ass somewhere else

Mailbox
11-12-2006, 07:31 PM
Yeah, now I'm just going to pick you apart.

your calling me a retard...
Yes, I am, in fact, calling you a retard.

ok, dumbass im "flaunting" anything and ya i like VII, who the fuck cares? these are FINAL FANTASY forums moron!
Yes, you are "flaunting anything" eh? You might want to put the 'not' in there unless you're admitting that you are. Just because it's a Final Fantasy forums doesn't mean you can post around like a Sephiroth humping fucktard.


i was having a conversation with people about the game so dont try to but in and talk shit because you were beatin as a child and most likely punked in school.
I love how random people on the internet know my childhood; Newsflash, you're not fucking David Blaine or anything close, you can't pull my past out of your ass. Have a conversation with that person through PMs or in the FFVII board.


not once did i say "ZOMG BEST GAME EVAR!!!" i said "this game is the shit, and i said the same for XII because i like both pretty much equally.
I never said you said that, (I would've quoted you if you did) if you knew any better you would notice it's the typical FFVII fan kid. Your "this game is the shit" quote runs along to same lines if you ask me. If you love them so damn equally, just get yourself an avatar with both Sephiroth and Vaan in it and we'll call it a day; or maybe throw Ashe in there so you can fap to it, if Sephy wasn't already enough.


oh, so you suck at the game? thats cool! well if your gonna make these idiotic accusations take your lame ass somewhere else
Once again, pulling random facts out of your ass doesn't work and you really wouldn't know my gaming tendencies. So, try again. For the record, my ass is not lame, it is cute and people can pleasantly smack it from time to time, thank you very much.

Hex Omega
11-12-2006, 07:43 PM
For the record, my ass is not lame, it is cute and people can pleasantly smack it from time to time, thank you very much.

Which we do!

^___________^

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 07:54 PM
you can't... im invincible to your ignorance

i missed a word... omg... having sephiroth as my avatar means im posting around like a sephiroth humping fucktard" hmm you have some very strange ideas, its a picture get over it! seems to me you have some jealousy over a animated character sephiroth... mental? if i was so bent over sephiroth or VII, as you apparently think, i would probably have my user name and title say sumthing about one of the too, do i? no..


I love how random people on the internet know my childhood; Newsflash, you're not fucking David Blaine or anything close, you can't pull my past out of your ass. Have a conversation with that person through PMs or in the FFVII board.

you say im not david blaine, and dont kno your past, how would you know? if your going to make an accusation dont return it saying exactly what ur telling me i dont kno.. your pulling shit out of your ass (see i can imitate too)


I never said you said that, if you knew any better you would notice it's the typical FFVII fan kid. Your "that game is the shit" quote runs along to same lines if you ask me. If you love them so damn equally, just get yourself an avatar with both Sephiroth and Vaan in it and we'll call it a day.


you never said that huh? you never specifically said that i said it, but you were implying it because you were talking to me.. read your own post #206 dumbass, dont go editing now that you kno how ignorant you are. i have my opinions of certain games and you have yours, you are in no way near a superior to me so i dont have to do a damn thing to please you. i choose what avatar i want because "I" want it. you might think you can control what people can do but you cant do a damn thing quit CRYING about stupid shit


Once again, pulling random facts out of your ass doesn't work and you really wouldn't know my gaming tendencies. So, try again.

if random facts dont work why do you also do it? hmm cant answer that with a fact can you? i dont kno your gaming tendencies? you said ashe, penelo, and fran were twice the level of your other characters, and you dont play the game much.. you SUCK! if you ever plan on beating the game you might want to keep all characters fairly the same level until level 40.


My ass is not lame, it is cute and people can pleasantly smack it from time to time, thank you very much.

once again, your on terminolgy, quit pulling shit out of your ass! i really doubt its nice, even if it was (considering you really are a chick... which seems unlikely) i doubt anyone would want to touch that shit. you are a very bitchy, stupid, stupid girl

before try "insulting" me again as you would call it, think very hard on what you say. you insult on how i talk but you do the very same thing.

Ubernoob
11-12-2006, 07:58 PM
This is getting interesting!

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 08:02 PM
Which we do!

^___________^

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

im sure... trying to hook up online in forums? or married? either way its sad.. you called me a noob... wtf do you think this is nerd? usual bs about VII huh, well i only said one thing about VII "that game is the shit" in reply to someone so do not speak unless givin permission. FACT of information - i am not a "fanboy nit-wit" as you say, i played a game and liked it, i dont collect posters, action figures, or decorate my room full of VII shit, or any game for that matter. READ my user name n title, if you knew anything besides the names of your games, youd kno a 300zx is a car, and a Z is a series of cars made by Nissan formerly known as Datsun. this series includes for example, the 300zx, the 350z, 280z. so if you plan on accusing me of being anything, you might want to call it a street racer, seeing thats what i do all day

Hex Omega
11-12-2006, 08:03 PM
i doubt anyone would want to touch that shit. you are a very bitchy, stupid, stupid girl


Rest assured, she is a girl, and I would <3.

also, i'm not going to bother with the rest of that bs you call a post.

edit to respond to last post: Yeah, i'm totally serious there, as I am in every post I make. :rolleyes:

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 08:06 PM
also bryan, dont try "sticking up" (if thats what you call it) for this little girl, if she wants to make idiotic insults, she can try to defend her accusations, which are entirely based on... NOTHING but crying

Hex Omega
11-12-2006, 08:09 PM
She can stick up for herself perfectly well, thank you as she has many times before.

But I can call you for your stupidty all I please. Also, the only one I see making idiotic, baseless insults is you.

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 08:15 PM
i dont call it a post moron... these are forums anything entered on a thread is a POST. how many people on here are truly as stupid as those two?

ahhh.. your brain cant handle the fact that now you kno ur accusation of me being a fanboy nit-wit was entirely wrong, just like hers... go play with urself some more buddy, you two can keep replying, trying to think of sumthing to say but it wont mean anything since everything that has been said by you two is complete ignorance, or as some would say "seeking to being noticed"

really? i dont see any of it. you're actually gonna say that crap... wow... learn to understand what you are reading before you speak

Mailbox
11-12-2006, 08:15 PM
Ok, heres the deal, I edited my post quite a long time ago and I noticed the edits aren't used in your new "comeback", therefore it took you approximately 20-30 minutes to write that massive chunk of shit you would consider an insult. I let it go earlier, but your grammar and sentence structure is so horrible that you should go back to 6th grade if you're not already there.

The whole, I'm pulling stuff out of my ass, reverse shit that you're trying to pull makes you look like a fucking moron. The whole I said your implying I said but she said and you're talking to me is entirely confusing and it'd be nice if you knew what the piss you were talking about. Just because I'm replying to you doesn't mean I'm quoting you, now shut the fuck up and learn to read you illiterate bastard.

My main party in FFXII does not qualify as my "gaming tendencies" or my basic knowledge in the game. I highly suggest you know what the hell you're talking about or at least beat the game before you can deem that someone else sucks, but of course, being the fucktard that you are, have infinite knowledge of FFXII, I should've known. EDIT <b>::facepalm::</b>

Also, my ass is posted in the internet stalker thread if you'd like to find it. I am a female and more than 1 member can verify this also with the fact that Bryan already noted that I have a cute ass. (<i>Thanks Bryan <3</i>) Now shut up and if you're going to spew garbage, just send me a PM and stop shitting up a decent thread.

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 08:26 PM
ok before i start... you say ALL that shit about my grammar and sentence structure and then you say "Bryan already noted that I can a cute ass" nice try... sorry i dont write posts as if it was an essay, id rather not waste my time with it all

the fact of the matter is you keep making pointless accusations, insults, etc, which do not make any sense.


The whole, I'm pulling stuff out of my ass, reverse shit that you're trying to pull makes you look like a fucking moron. The whole I said you implying I said but she said and you're talking to me is entirely confusing and it'd be nice if you knew what the piss you were talking about. Just because I'm replying to you doesn't mean I'm quoting you, now shut the fuck up and learn to read you illiterate bastard.

if you are really stupid enough to not realize everything you have said fits in that category, you need to make some major changes in your thinking and life


Also, my ass is posted in the internet stalker thread if you'd like to find it. I am a female and more than 1 member can verify this also with the fact that Bryan already noted that I can a cute ass. Now shut up and if you're going to spew garbage, just send me a PM and stop shitting up a thread with your garbage.

....if this was the case, wouldnt you have sent me a PM with your bullshit in your first response? dont be mad that everyone can read exactly how much of a hyopcrite you are, thank you come again. i am done speaking to ur ignorant ass so give up on making these false accusations already

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 08:28 PM
soo everyone, before rudely interrupted by these children, how are you liking the game

Mailbox
11-12-2006, 08:39 PM
There's an edit button for a reason, don't double post.

Also, How are we liking this game? Welcome to the last 8 pages of this thread.

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 09:01 PM
sorry about this, but i had to say i just now went throught my posts and edited a few things. this to that since that is what was said, and removed parenthesis, added commas, etc..

i was going to pm this to you twilight cuz im getting really bored with you... but i did not double post... once again, youre pulling shit out of your ass

nice, now you say exactly as i say, i trained you well... except for the fact that this "argument" wouldnt make a full page even if you were to add the two post from page 8... you are a very delusional person, and stop makin shit up

Mailbox
11-12-2006, 09:12 PM
i was going to pm this to you twilight cuz im getting really bored with you... but i did not double post... once again, youre pulling shit out of your ass
[Only registered and activated users can see links]

Andyuk
11-12-2006, 09:26 PM
how about keeping on topic?

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 09:27 PM
i am sorry to everyone who has had to read all this got a little carried away.
i apologize to you twilight, even tho you are the one who made the rude remark in the beginning.... i gotta ask you sumthing tho, why are you saying i double posted? because like i said, i did not, and you even made yourself proof of it with that screenshot...

Andyuk
11-12-2006, 09:28 PM
That is a double post. Two posts in a row. You did that.

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 09:33 PM
this game is just incredible, it may have quite a few similarities to the previous FF's, but square enix did an amazing job as usual

i really like Garif town and the people they look cool

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 09:34 PM
some people may view it that way i guess?... ive never heard that but sure.
ive always known a double post to be two posts of the same in a row, which is sometimes caused when people submit the post more than once because they do not think it went through

if thats what you think it is, here i did it again... dont see why anyone would care about what you are calling a double post tho because it is not doing anything except adding another post to the thread, where as, what i was always told a double post to be is irritating since it is two posts of the exact same thing

300zxJ
11-12-2006, 09:38 PM
some people may view it that way i guess?... ive never heard that but sure.
ive always known a double post to be two posts of the same in a row, which is sometimes caused when people submit the post more than once because they do not think it went through

if thats what you think it is, here i did it again... dont see why anyone would care about what you are calling a double post tho because it is not doing anything except adding another post to the thread, where as, what i was always told a double post to be is irritating since it is two posts of the exact same thing

see what im saying now? that is a double post.. and yes, i did that on purpose just to show

bringthechaos
11-12-2006, 10:27 PM
HOW DO I BEAT THE FIRST DEMON WALL?!?!?!?

Sackboy
11-12-2006, 11:55 PM
HOW DO I BEAT THE FIRST DEMON WALL?!?!?!?

Quickenings help. I think I was around lvl 18 or 19. The 2nd Demon Wall is easy, though. Trust me, we all hated the Demon Wall. In fact, I think my exact words a few pages down were...


FUCKING DEMON WALL!!!

lol.


edit: I am now 39 hours 28 minutes into the game and have just arrived at the most beautiful place in the game I have ever seen - Paramina Rift / Head of the Silverflow. The spot just across the river, amazing how it looks when your walking with the camera looking upward at the mountains. I'm just now starting to understand why it took them so long to come out with this game.

Nightowl9910
11-13-2006, 05:50 AM
some people may view it that way i guess?... ive never heard that but sure.
ive always known a double post to be two posts of the same in a row, which is sometimes caused when people submit the post more than once because they do not think it went through

if thats what you think it is, here i did it again... dont see why anyone would care about what you are calling a double post tho because it is not doing anything except adding another post to the thread, where as, what i was always told a double post to be is irritating since it is two posts of the exact same thing

see what im saying now? that is a double post.. and yes, i did that on purpose just to show

It doesn't really matter whether or not the posts in question have exactly the same content, or are totally different to each other. If a member has submitted one post right after another so they appear next to each other, in either case, then that's still a double post.

It's fine to add something to a post already been made, if there is something else you want to say before anyone else submits a post after your reply. However, as mentioned, that's what the edit button is there for. No one minds if double posting happens by accident, on the odd occasion but regular double posting is against the rules on this site.

300zxJ
11-13-2006, 06:41 AM
oh really? if you read the forum guidelines, it says nothing about double posting. some may believe that is double posting, but double posting is always gonna be to me how ive always known it. what you're calling a double is a follow up post

d_empiror
11-13-2006, 06:46 AM
this game is just incredible, it may have quite a few similarities to the previous FF's, but square enix did an amazing job as usual

i really like Garif town and the people they look cool


so far for me i agree, its an entire NEW STYLE

Nightowl9910
11-13-2006, 07:16 AM
oh really? if you read the forum guidelines, it says nothing about double posting

Maybe not but the site staff do expect the members to consider certain things themselves, such as why the edit button is there for each member to use when they post.


double posting is always gonna be to me how ive always known it. what you're calling a double is a follow up post

That's still counted as a double post on this site. Still you don't have to take my word for it. Any member of site staff will say the same and tell you it's generally preferred people don't double post.

Prak
11-13-2006, 08:29 AM
You guys suck. You got me all excited about the damn demon wall, thinking it was actually going to be a difficult fight, but i was able to turn it around, fuck it in the ass, and kill it with a nasty glare. At this point, I'm very tempted to put the game away and write it off as yet another piss easy FF game with a broken system.

Also, lolling at that 300zx clown claiming to be a street racer when he's undoubtedly a ricer fag.

300zxJ
11-13-2006, 09:54 AM
Also, lolling at that 300zx clown claiming to be a street racer when he's undoubtedly a ricer fag.

yeah sure, call it what you want but take note that i have a RB25DET engine, if you even kno what that is... if not dont speak cuz if you even have a car, itll smoke yours by a mile. if you do happen to kno what that engine is, youd kno its no ricer, FAG

Prak
11-13-2006, 10:16 AM
rofl You just revealed yourself to be a pretentious know-nothing idiot. I am, as a matter of fact, very familiar with Nissan's RB engines, although the only one I've actually driven was an RB26DETT. I would actually be inclined to think that I know more than you about that engine due to the fact that you made no mention at all of its tuning and seem to be under the mistaken impression that the engine is somehow special. It's popular enough among kids who don't understand what the hell they're playing with because it's easy to tune, but there are far better options out there.

Now get back on topic, fgt.

z.zetsumei
11-13-2006, 10:26 AM
yeah sure, call it what you want but take note that i have a RB25DET engine, if you even kno what that is... if not dont speak cuz if you even have a car, itll smoke yours by a mile. if you do happen to kno what that engine is, youd kno its no ricer, FAG

i lawled at this...you probably just did a straight drop and thought that your car could be fast...i've seen your type...frickin catalog tuners, all show...no go
just to let you know...i've got a GTi MKV with an APR Stage 3 turbo, EvoMS intake, Eurojet intercooler, Quaife LSD, Milltek turbo back exhaust, and was all co-tuned by me and a buddy of mine
if you think that n00b engine can handle 375 hp to the wheels in a straight line...btw, that's without all the tire squealing (i could go higher if i wanted to, but i don't like the idea of losing precious milliseconds spinning my tires)...let alone a track since my center of gravity is lower and easier to manage...tell me what strip you call home and i'll decide if it's worth the trip just to smoke your ass
or if you want...i could pull out my R1 and leave you at the starting line scratching your balls while i roll sub-9 second 1/4 mile runs all day on you

back on topic...this game is starting to shit up on me...no...it's just the fact that it's getting way to easy for my preference...if it keeps up like this i'm selling it back as soon as i beat it

Khronik
11-13-2006, 10:30 AM
what'd you do prak... look up skyline engines online. i happen to race imports and that engine just happens to be a skyline gt-r engine with TT, so im guessing you looked online for it and put the best one? and if your gonna try to put 300zx down with not mentioning tuning, your an idiot, you tune more then just your engine... if you knew so much youd kno that. in the first place he was saying you dont kno the engine, which apparently you dont because skyline only has RB engines, except for one and only one...


if you think that n00b engine can handle 375 hp to the wheels in a straight line...let alone a track since my center of gravity is lower and easier to manage
HAHAHA you think an MKV is lower than a 300zx? your dreaming man ecspecially if its a 2+2

well anyway this game is goin great, im just catching up on hunts right now for extra stuff

Prak
11-13-2006, 10:34 AM
haha double account, mir?

Also, second-guessing others makes you look retarded.

Khronik
11-13-2006, 10:40 AM
double account? are you an idiot? im not second guessing anything, i know for a fact

but please lets stay on topic this thread is for How you like the game so far, not car talk. if you want to talk about cars, i am sure there are forums you can go to

Prak
11-13-2006, 10:47 AM
I find it very hard to believe that someone entirely different would pop up on that dumbass's side while making all the same dumbass grammatical errors. Of course, there's a very simple way to find out.

IP check on aisle 5, please.

z.zetsumei
11-13-2006, 10:50 AM
what'd you do prak... look up skyline engines online. i happen to race imports and that engine just happens to be a skyline gt-r engine with TT, so im guessing you looked online for it and put the best one? and if your gonna try to put 300zx down with not mentioning tuning, your an idiot, you tune more then just your engine... if you knew so much youd kno that. in the first place he was saying you dont kno the engine, which apparently you dont because skyline only has RB engines, except for one and only one...


HAHAHA you think an MKV is lower than a 300zx? your dreaming man ecspecially if its a 2+2

well anyway this game is goin great, im just catching up on hunts right now for extra stuff

i lawled again...the 300zx may be able to put more down on the pavement, but i've smoked tons of cars on tracks buddy
by the way...notice how i said CENTER OF GRAVITY....not ride height...there's a big difference there
evo VIIIs, IXs, '04 to '04 STis, g35s, 350zs, tell me when you've had enough
you can say all you want about how great your car is with a drop-in swap
power to weight ratio is a key factor in my success....that and a torque band that'll make you cry
can you say 350 ft/lbs of torque from 1700 rpms up to my redline at 6500?
not to mention i get 280 below 1700
i've left tons of guys spinning their tires at the starting line because the power is too much for their car to handle...and trust me...the 300zx is no exception
like i said...tell me where and i'll do my best to be there just to prove you wrong

300zxJ
11-13-2006, 10:51 AM
wtf prak go suck your dads dick you might wanna pull your uncles outa ur ass first, fuking cock sucker, you r one stupid ass motherfucker posing to know shit about cars stfu

Khronik
11-13-2006, 10:54 AM
you people need to take this conversation elsewhere, these are not import racer forums, or anything close.

Prak
11-13-2006, 10:58 AM
IP check says you're busted, fgt. haha

Joey
11-13-2006, 11:00 AM
Wow I instantly blame 300zxJ for totally fucking up my thread.
I didn't even read the entire argument(s) but seriously take your shit somewhere else, maybe another website or just another thread.

No one cares about your sucky cars.


Anyway, Prak I know Demon Wall was easy as hell and everyone thinks they are difficult but whatever.
That is just because everyone here relys on quickenings and have shit level characters.
But the system is way too easy because I just purchased some accessories that allow Double EXP for enemies.

So within an hour I climbed from level 42 to 50.

This game is not hard at all, but it is fun.

And long.

300zxJ
11-13-2006, 11:00 AM
you are a fucking idiot, i have family dumbass!... theres this thing called a router, shit for brains!

does everyone in this threads just pick someones side and then bitch cuz they dont wnat others to talk shit for siding with the "one"

ANYWAYS JOEY you fucktard look at the others before you say noone cares about my "sucky cars" these morons are talkin about them too. quit stickin your dick in prak's ass

Joey
11-13-2006, 11:01 AM
Seriously


stfu

z.zetsumei
11-13-2006, 11:02 AM
Seriously


stfu

X2