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Purrr
06-18-2004, 05:35 AM
I believe that Chrono Trigger is the best RPG ever.....do you agree?

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
06-18-2004, 05:38 AM
My old forum name was Crono----- something. So yes, best game of all time.

NeoSizer
06-18-2004, 05:44 AM
Two words.

Bloody Brillian.

Yeah, CT Rockes ALL! Easily one of the best, if not THE best RPG in the history of man kind.

Marceline
06-19-2004, 04:49 AM
It's definitely one of them.

FFVI still gets the number one spot from me though.

Rabid Monkey
06-19-2004, 06:41 AM
Dragon Warrior IV. I've said it so many times, and I'm sure I'll say it again, best. game. ever.

Slimmy
07-12-2004, 11:46 AM
mmm

Bahamut ZERO
07-12-2004, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Slimmy
mmm

Please do not post one word answers that have no relevance to the thread in question. :(

My favourite RPG of all time? Morrowind. If only due to the amount of time I was addicted to it. The console RPGs I've played all had fantastic storylines and smooth battle systems, but only Morrowind allowed me to walk away from the main storyline and still have a whole game to play.

Bigfoot
07-12-2004, 06:34 PM
Yeah, Chrono Trigger is up there in the top ten...top five even. It was great fun, enough that I wanted to play it again to see the multiple endings. It's tip top.

Wattson
07-12-2004, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Ndi
It's definitely one of them.

FFVI still gets the number one spot from me though.

Melchior
07-12-2004, 09:36 PM
The greatest RPG ever I beleive would either be Chrono Trigger or Morrowind, both for opposite reasons.

Chrono Trigger is so simple its perfect, great music, great graphics, great system, not too long a game but great replay value, and theme feel. every aspect is better than anything on the SNES, even FFVI (but it comes close) plus the concept can never get old, (searching the past to save the future, everyone on your team is from a certain time period.)

Morrowind on the otherhand is just mindblowing, I can't even begin to talk about it, it's just incredible.

ziggypop
07-15-2004, 03:21 PM
Xenogears, anyone?

Melchior
07-15-2004, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by ziggypop
Xenogears, anyone?

You like xenogears alot don't you? Are you in the heat of the game right now or are you just tunneled fan?

777
07-15-2004, 07:13 PM
One of the best games ever, I agree.
The point is the time when it was released and what console it got on, you know what I mean?

It was released in 1995 on SNES and still playebable for people who have played even FF10, it is kind of same as FF7, when you think of it in that way.
I think this game changed the way character move in RPGs, you know, before this game was released, it was like just people moving on blocky lines, look at them in this game! it is really smooth! They look rather alive!
One more time, this game suggested how characters should move.

The best RPGgames in my opinion-----------------

Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy 7
Xenogears
Final Fantasy Tactics
Star Ocean- the second story-
Valkyrie Profile

( can't remember the others, but the ones above are the very best ones)

iconoclastic pastry
07-15-2004, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Ndi
It's definitely one of them.

FFVI still gets the number one spot from me though.

Magus
07-16-2004, 03:59 AM
Yes, Chrono Trigger is the best RPG of all time. No questions asked. It is perfect.

Tokiko
07-16-2004, 04:03 AM
Magus~! :D

How come I haven't posted in this thread yet? I so adore Chrono Trigger... ;_; And I so need another sequel, it hurts. ;_;

Purrr
07-20-2004, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by Tokiko
Magus~! :D

How come I haven't posted in this thread yet? I so adore Chrono Trigger... ;_; And I so need another sequel, it hurts. ;_;


:(

Australia never received Chrono Cross

:(

Magus
07-20-2004, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by Purrr



:(

Australia never received Chrono Cross

:(

GASP! I'm sorry, give me your address and i'll mail you a copy ^.^

Purrr
07-20-2004, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by Magus


GASP! I'm sorry, give me your address and i'll mail you a copy ^.^

:( Yeah PAL territories suck ;_;

We're also not getting FFXI, and we are getting Resident Evil: Outbreak WITHOUT the online capabilities.

It's a sad year for Aussie gamers nationwide

:(

Vetus
09-25-2009, 03:34 PM
I believe that Chrono Trigger is the best RPG ever.....do you agree?
Who doesn't? Even thought Grandia is my favourite rpg, to be fair-minded Chrono Trigger is the best rpg I've ever played along with Zelda - A Link to the Past. No matter how picky gamer you are, you can't find any flaw point at Chrono Trigger: the story, the characters, the battle system, the graphics (even today, they look so superb), the soundtrack (it has the best intro theme I've ever heard), the overall gameplay...and it's one of the few rpg you can play today it without being remaked (like with Final Fantasy older games).

Locke_FF36
09-25-2009, 04:55 PM
Grandia is your favorite? you haven't played very many rpg's have you?>

doomjockey
09-25-2009, 05:56 PM
No matter how picky gamer you are, you can't find any flaw point at Chrono Trigger: the story, the characters, the battle system, the graphics (even today, they look so superb), the soundtrack (it has the best intro theme I've ever heard), the overall gameplay...

Haven't met many picky gamers have you?

Heavenlyheathen
09-25-2009, 08:11 PM
Dragon Warrior IV. I've said it so many times, and I'm sure I'll say it again, best. game. ever.

I agree: Dragon Warrior IV is the best, but CT is very near the top of the list.

topopoz
09-25-2009, 08:55 PM
Hard to say, but this game is really really great, the best that SNES has to offer along with Super Castlevania IV, FFIV and FFVI in my opinion. I remember when I was so addicted to this game and Chrono Cross, that I searched for all over the internet everything related to the timelines and storylines. Really great game, in my opinion there's no such thing as "best ever" but it's one of my fauvorite games, the gameplay was even better than CC but storywise i think of them as whole.

Eshvoide
09-25-2009, 10:42 PM
Chrono Trigger is a good game.

puddles123
09-26-2009, 02:52 PM
I played Chrono Trigger very recently, and while I did not get to the end (my computer crashed and I had to reinstall the OS), I did get quite far. Here are my impressions, to anyone who cares:

Story - This didn't quite suck me in immediately, as it seemed for quite a while that the main threat was some dark, evil man named Magus, with his three overlord minions. This seemed somewhat stereotypical to me, as you get plenty of games and stories where the bad guy is an irredeemable evil person (or thing) who doesn't have any real rationalization for the things he does. He just wants to kill people/conquer the world.

However, once Lavos entered into the story, I was far more intrigued. Especially as it became more and more clear that Magus didn't actually create or control Lavos. Essentially, Lavos became this unearthly, disturbing entity whose function was to destroy worlds. And we see what it can do to the world, in the future time. They built up the idea of Lavos so powerfully that I never dared to set foot in "The Day of Lavos" time continuum. I was simply too intimidated.

As for the time travel, at first it was disorienting, and it didn't seem clear why the characters were even doing it. Like what I've said before, it is a storytelling element which grew on me as time went on. I became more familiar with the different times and, through doing so, felt like I had a greater understanding of the world and history in which the game is set.

In short, once the game finally set all of its cards on the table, I enjoyed it immensely. 8 out of 10.

Characters - This I did not like at all. For one, the main character, Crono, never spoke. He had no personality, no motivations, absolutely no reason for doing what he did, which was rather disconcerting. However, this isn't entirely a condemnation. There are plenty of other games where the main character does not speak or obtains no real development at all. Take Link from the Zelda series, for example. In the Zelda games I've played (everything up to and including Majora's Mask), Link never actually talks. However, the difference between Crono and Link is that Link somehow manages to obtain a personality of his own in the way he moves, the things he does. Also, Link's origins are revealed, and why he does what he does.

With Crono, however, all I had were mystifying questions. He fights like some samurai, but there was absolutely no background as to why he has any combat ability at all. He grew up in that one starter town, but why would he have any interest in risking his life dozens of times to jump through different time periods in an effort to save each 'world'? He basically seemed to me to be a weaker version of Vaan from FFXII; a tag-along character who is given a cursory once-over in terms of motivations and why he does what he does. And Vaan gets more background than Crono.

As for the other characters, I wasn't terribly impressed. Marle was a peppy and whiny little princess. Lucca was the mechanic. Ayla was the stereotypical amazon. Frog was a stereotypical knight. Robo was... ??? I'm afraid I didn't get to the point where Magus was a playable character, but I'm betting they fleshed him out better, so not all is lost.

Out of all these characters that I did get, the only one who I was interested in (and only later on) was Frog. He actually develops and we get to see that he becomes comfortable with his new form, and isn't actually the hero (in his eyes). His final decision to take the masamune and defeat Magus with it was quite cool. However, he is one among many two dimensional characters and a characterless main character. So, I must give the characters in this game a 6 out of 10.

The Battle System - This was interesting, although became swiftly annoying (for me, at least). I liked the idea of your attacks becoming more powerful, or hitting more enemies based on their formation, and your characters' formation, in the midst of battle. Combo attacks were fun, and it was cool how every character seemed to have combo attacks to develop with each and every other character. My complaints, however, are twofold.

First, enemies have a habit of spastically diving and weaving around the battlefield, making for a rather odd thing to watch as well as making certain tech attacks almost like a toss of the dice regarding whether you'd be able to set them up or not. You couldn't move your own characters, making this seemingly strategic system more an exercise of patience or luck when seeking to set up sweet tech attacks.

Second, you are given the impression that you can avoid battles by not running into enemies. However, in many areas, that concept is completely ignored as you are forced to fight battles whether you like them or not. For example, in 65mil BC, you could go for a ladder, only for it to magically trigger an attack by pterodactyls. Every. Single. Time. In the dinosaur fortress (or whatever it was called) I got seriously bored with the battle system because I had to fight soooo many enemies. The game gave me the impression that there were no FF-style random battles, but then the game ends up having FAR more battles than I expected, making the unique battle system become very boring, very fast. All in all, I give it a 8 out of 10, given these two complaints.

The Graphics - I have no complaint with the graphics. They seem very good to me, even for this day and age. 10 out of 10.

The Soundtrack - It had some memorable tunes, but I like the soundtracks of some other RPGs better. Just a personal preference. 8 out of 10.

I'll be curious to see if anyone disagrees with my 'review'. I don't think it is the best RPG ever, but it is certainly a very unique and memorable one. However, I would much rather replay a number of other RPGs than this one, especially given its tendency for endless, endless battles. But I loved the story, after a while, and the graphics and soundtrack were pretty damn good, so I will definitely return to this game sometime in the future. Overall: 8 out of 10.

topopoz
09-26-2009, 03:27 PM
Well puddles, the character/heros are made that way intentionally, even though the story can be as deep as it gets, the characters are made to give a touch of cartoonish/anime comedy style to the whole apocalyptic atmosphere, finish the game with all the side quests and stories, you are at the middle of the game if you are in the point I think you are. Try not to pay attention to the heros, the extras are the ones who give form to the story, the only heros who play a large role in the story are, Magus, Marle and Frog(well this one partially after the middle ages they turn off his light), the other ones are just "Triggers"(very smart) to make some other things to happen and to go further in the storyline, besides there are so many endings. About the battles, I found many ways to avoid them, I avoid almost Every battle, there are some that are obligatory of course, but almost many you can avoid them, you just need to know where to put your foot. Many of the boss battles are epic. But as I mentioned before, there's no such thing as "best ever".

puddles123
09-26-2009, 05:11 PM
Yeah I know that the characters were made that way intentionally, it just seemed to me that making the characters in the game have an extreme penchant for slapstick comedy isn't the smartest way to counteract the atmosphere of an apocalyptic environment. It just made me wonder how on earth they could all be so obscenely bubbly (Marle...), indifferent (Crono), and oblivious (everyone else, for the most part). For example, in the future time, whenever that was, you have this desert wasteland reminiscent of the Fallout games, yet they all seem to be traipsing happily along as they figure things out. And some of those things they figure out are rather nasty.

As for the battles, I did my best to avoid every one I could avoid, but there were still plenty of battles which were unavoidable. I would step into a certain part of the room, and some baddies would come out of nowhere to force me into combat. I found this to be particularly overdone in the dinosaur stronghold where you end up fighting the one dino wizard on top of his massive t-rex steed. I almost quit the game at that point because I was sick to death of fighting all of those rectites (or whatever they were called) every time I left or entered a new room.

I did like the game very much in the end, I'm just trying to explain and pinpoint those particular areas that brought it down for me ;) I wish I hadn't have lost my save file, but I did look up what I missed, so I think my review is pretty accurate. And the boss fights were definitely pretty epic. I actually had to try for those ones later on, hehe.

doomjockey
09-26-2009, 07:01 PM
I pretty much agree on all points. But this is of course hindsight after playing more games where development and story were actually key points of interest. It's not to say that CT gets a pass on all that...FFIV handles narrative much better and that was a year prior to CT. But I think most games of the day were still being made with kids in mind chiefly and not the broader, more discriminating audiences of today.

Fastforward a few years later to Playstation and you can see Chrono Cross did a much better job with development even with the interchangeable cast. Serge is a mute protagonist, but he's not as faceless as Crono.

avilslare
10-05-2009, 05:25 AM
The greatest RPG ever I believe would either be Chrono Trigger or Morrowind, both for opposite reasons.


It's interesting, I brought this argument up with some friends and without even mentioning Chrono Trigger or Morrowind, they popped up in the conversation. I personally have played CT though not Morrowind, but CT is in my top 3 favorite games of all time and in that top three there are no other RPGs so I would agree with it being my favorite of all time, but greatest RPG ever to everyone, that's a tough one.

CT being my favorite RPG is mainly for nostalgic reasons, it being the first RPG I ever played, and while there have been some epic RPGs along the way, CT is still near and dear to me, so even through the most epic, it still prevails which says something.

Blameless
10-05-2009, 02:04 PM
I really liked CT.

However, I wouldn't call it the "best RPG ever".

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
10-07-2009, 11:46 AM
it's the best jrpg ever.

puddles123
10-07-2009, 11:52 AM
@close this gay thread -

Best jrpg ever? That suggests that you think a western (or other) rpg is better. Out of curiosity, what rpg is that?

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
10-07-2009, 11:57 AM
i dont pretend to know enough about (or enjoy) western rpgs to say. the genres are just so different it seems ridiculous to crown a best overall rpg.

Tanis
10-07-2009, 12:14 PM
I wouldn't call CT the best ever.

There were better on the SNES, and there have been better after.

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
10-07-2009, 12:43 PM
There were better on the SNES,arguable, certainly.
and there have been better after.no fucking way.

Blameless
10-07-2009, 12:46 PM
it's the best jrpg ever.

I might agree with this, but I really haven't played that many JRPGs.

Tanis
10-07-2009, 01:09 PM
arguable, certainly.no fucking way.
Persona 3:FES


For me, it's a more engaging RPG than CT.

Better in every way.

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
10-07-2009, 01:56 PM
I might agree with this, but I really haven't played that many JRPGs.

you don't need to. you've experienced the pinnacle.

ROKUSHO
10-07-2009, 03:10 PM
chrono cross is better IMO.
but CT has that special "something" that makes it unique.

A WILD SNORLAX APPEARS
10-07-2009, 03:17 PM
yes it's called quality

Shadow mage
10-09-2009, 04:39 AM
Chrono Trigger was one of my first RPGs i played. To this day it is one of my favourites. Its just a shame that its sequel (chrono cross) wasnt that great (it was good not great).

Btw...Did anyone hear about that fanmade made interquel that was shut down by SE by a C&D letter. Apparently it was called "Crimson Echoes". It was shut down this year and i didnt find out about it till 2 months ago. It looked good from the trailers...but hey im not surprised it shut down.

Tanis
10-09-2009, 04:53 AM
There's still a project being done using the original CT engine.


Also, there's another game called 'Radical Dreamers' that's part of the CT/CC mythos.

Shadow mage
10-09-2009, 04:53 PM
That was a game exclusive to Japan thought. However some people actually got together a few years back and translated it. I playd the English game...well i shouldnt call it a game....more like a book.

Lightcaster
10-10-2009, 03:07 PM
I'm not sure if this is true, but I heard news that the Original CT engine game being made was bought then destroyed by square.

Kinda sucks because Chrono trigger was such a awesome game. Almost makes me feel like going back and playing it again (For the 10 billionth time). ^_^

Do you guys think the Square will ever make a third game or something?
Cause that would be so awesome!

puddles123
10-10-2009, 03:36 PM
They might remake it. After all, they seem to be steadily remaking every early Final Fantasy game. I distinctly recall reading somewhere that they are only going to remake games that aren't playable with this generation's consoles, meaning Chrono Trigger would classify under that criteria. We're gonna have to wait for PS4 or something until they think about remaking FF7 or beyond, though...

Neg
10-10-2009, 04:50 PM
I sold my DS copy. I told TK it didn't hold up, over time. I like being controversial ^_^

Shadow mage
10-10-2009, 05:22 PM
Yea, theyve already remade CT on DS...the next time they will work on it will be in a long time.

Besides you should read this article: [Only registered and activated users can see links]

ROKUSHO
10-10-2009, 06:04 PM
They might remake it. After all, they seem to be steadily remaking every early Final Fantasy game. I distinctly recall reading somewhere that they are only going to remake games that aren't playable with this generation's consoles, meaning Chrono Trigger would classify under that criteria. We're gonna have to wait for PS4 or something until they think about remaking FF7 or beyond, though...


they ported the psx version to the DS.
i dont see the game been remaked in at least 5 years or more.

xENOgEAR666
11-04-2009, 02:43 PM
Xenogears, anyone?

I concur. Xenogears is the best. ;)

Deep riveting story, awesome villains, gears...

I can't imagine it getting better than this.

Hynad
11-05-2009, 07:35 PM
Suikoden beats Xenogears.

topopoz
11-05-2009, 08:32 PM
Suikoden beats Xenogears.

Maybe... Suikoden has a lazy battle system, while Xenogears has a boring one, but what I really hate of xenogears it's is random battles are so frequent and that it's also a platform game.
So, Platform game+Random encounters = Denseness. At least for me it's that way.
But both are good games, I don't really like Xenogears, but I admit that is an interesting title.
I'm playing suikoden 1 and it's growing on me.

Argus Zephyrus
11-16-2009, 01:49 AM
I love CT as well, one of my favorites. I found the Black Omen kind of annoying.

x2 for Morrowind (xbox). It blew my mind with being able to do anything. I get bored now that my character is invincible and excessively powerful, lol.

I've considered playing Xenogears before for just to check it out, but the random battles thing is now discouraging me. I'm sick those...
I downloaded Suikoden last year, but haven't gotten around to playing it.

EndlessDrifter
11-16-2009, 01:57 AM
Sorry..LOVE Chrono Trigger BUT! I love Breath of Fire 4 and Tales of Eternia ("Destiny 2" in US) way more.

Shadow mage
11-16-2009, 03:02 AM
Omg ive never played breath of fire iv. I stopped the breath of seres half way through III. Tell me is Breath of fire iv good?

EndlessDrifter
11-16-2009, 08:04 PM
I PROMISE you that it's amazing. If people took the time to sit down and play the 4th one, they'd realize how great it is. It is absolutely perfect and it really sucks you into the storyline better than the others. :)


Omg ive never played breath of fire iv. I stopped the breath of seres half way through III. Tell me is Breath of fire iv good?

blame_trigger
11-16-2009, 08:52 PM
I totally agree with you. Everything around CT is awesome! Music, characters, story... Everything!

Shadow mage
11-16-2009, 09:10 PM
I never finished BBreath of Fire III. I actually dont know why i stopped.

But now that u mention it...ill give iv a shot.

TK
11-17-2009, 12:28 PM
Chrono Trigger was a pioneering game for its time, so when it came out, I think in every regard possible it was pretty much the best ever. Nowadays there are some games that have eclipsed it in some ways, but there's more to CT than just its pioneering game elements. There is a special kind of charm and atmosphere infused in it that very few games ever have, and as far as I can tell no game has ever had combined with CT's flawless execution. Best JRPG ever... pretty much, yeah. The only way I can really ever find to describe it is that every single place, person and thing in this game evokes a sense of wonder and triggers immense happy feelings.

rezo
11-17-2009, 03:43 PM
Yeah, whatever else people may think, it still has the tightest design I've seen in an RPG. I don't know about it being pioneering, it didn't do a lot that was new and the next generation of Japanese RPGs went in a completely different direction, but it is exactly what it was advertised to be: a really good game by people who knew what they were doing. There's no lag in its pacing, dungeons are short and level grinding is unnecessary, enemies are not only visible on screen but a large number of them have staged appearance like sliding down banisters to come fight you, the dungeons come with unique gimmicks like stealth areas, vent crawling, track following, animal chasing, wind blowing etc, to keep things interesting beyond the normal point A to point B occasionally there is a puzzle treks of most RPGs.

There are games I like more, or that surpass it in certain areas but nothing that's nearly as well designed. I haven't really played many recent RPGs though, so maybe it was lapped by everything made after 2004 or so and is currently an embarrassment to the genre.

chewey
11-19-2009, 06:44 AM
I couldn't get into it.

Shadow mage
11-19-2009, 03:46 PM
You're missing out.

rezo
11-19-2009, 06:01 PM
He already played it though, so all he's missing out on is a game he couldn't get into. I only lasted 4 hours with Chrono Cross myself. Apparently the game gets amazing later on but that is an amazing I don't intend to experience ever.

Shadow mage
11-19-2009, 08:59 PM
It really doesnt. SE did a very good job of removing the fun of building your ideal team up. You know, cuz theres no leveling, weapon system is crap, 45 characters most of which are pointless, elemnt system is useless. I started it then somehow i dragged myself into finishing it. The game itself doesnt feel like a sequel to CT but more like a spin-off.

TK
11-20-2009, 11:58 PM
I don't know about it being pioneering, it didn't do a lot that was new

Whoa, I disagree completely! I may be overlooking something, but I think Chrono Trigger was unique in a lot of ways. I think the best way to sum it up was that is synthesized the free-form RPG style of Zelda with the turn-based quest style of Final Fantasy. CT is the first Japanese-style RPG I can think of that used the turn-based, time meter battle system of Final Fantasy while placing the enemies on the game map in real-time, even allowing you to avoid battles, and taking the position of enemies and party members into account for area-affecting spells and the like.

Plus things like: New Game+. The changing of the environment with time travel, which had been done by Zelda but was new to the Final Fantasy style RPG. The mix of sci fi and fantasy elements, which I can't recall any JRPG doing to anywhere close to that extent beforehand. The combination attacks. The prevalence of foreshadowing and allusion in the storyline. There's a lot of stuff, and all of it is little game elements, but when you consider them all, you have to realize how forward thinking the design team has to have been for this game. There's just nothing else like it and I don't think it's exclusively related to the tightness of the design, although that is clearly a huge aspect of the game's distinction.

rezo
11-21-2009, 06:48 PM
I could give it credit for the combination techs and new game+ I think. I don't know of any games before it that featured team up attacks like that, there's just combining magic or units.

It also almost certainly popularized the new game+ mode, but there were already games like Zelda with the redone world map after completion, or that introduced new scenarios,playable characters and game modes including the ability to gain experience at a faster rate when starting a new game.

Besides those things though, a combination of action RPGs and turn based RPGs would be closer to something like the mysterious dungeon series. All enemies are visible, battles take place on the game map without switching to a battle mode and it's turn based. I think the dungeons are basically like one large tactical map and the enemies take turns moving while you do. The other elements you mentioned have shown up in different games as well, and just in general it's normal for RPGs to attempt to bring something unique to their battle system, even if it's just changing what special moves are called because they're lazy, and I think Chrono's is pretty much what it says it is in the game: an update to Square's active battle system, and one of many ways to do things that were mostly already being done.

Sci Fi plus fantasy goes back to at least Phantasy Star and is almost a staple. Time Travel was toyed with in Robotrek and was the main theme of Final Fantasy Legend 3. It was in games like Sonic CD too so it was probably more common than it seems. Super Robot Wars EX also featured a multiscenario system where what you did in one game effected what happened in the next, but that's a straight strategy game.

The genre had developed pretty far by the time time Trigger came out, so I tend to think of it as an example of great execution rather than a pioneering one. For an influential game ahead of its time I'd think of something like Tactics Ogre which pretty much established and popularized the basic format for its genre. I hesitate to use establish there, but at worst it's like the Street Fighter 2 of SRPGs. Chrono Trigger is like the Super Street Fighter 2 of RPGs.

For a not so influential game ahead of its time, the Megami Tensei series had a fully developed monster conversation, capturing and merging system on the NES. It... it is the River City Ransom of RPGs.

Eshvoide
11-24-2009, 09:56 PM
If it has to be another SNES RPG (for me that comes close to Chrono Trigger), it definitely has to be Secret of Mana. As for the other consoles, I dunno.

YukidaruPunch
11-30-2009, 05:59 PM
It's pretty good, extremely accessible and has loads of replay value. I enjoy it, but I've liked many other RPGs a lot more.

jovianus
12-06-2009, 12:29 AM
for me there is 3 RPG that had the Best Story line and character, Chrono Trigger, FF VII and Suikoden, it was simply the Best

Shadow mage
12-07-2009, 06:07 PM
I LOVE the Secret Of Mana series. Seiken Densetsu III is one of my favourite SNES games.

Peytral
12-07-2009, 09:20 PM
Chrono Trigger may not be the best RPG ever, but it was certainly a great classic, and had the best rendition of the ATB system.

Argus Zephyrus
12-10-2009, 03:15 AM
I LOVE the Secret Of Mana series. Seiken Densetsu III is one of my favourite SNES games.

cheema201
12-10-2009, 05:31 AM
talking about chrono trigger. Have any of you used temporal flux??

You must have heard of the short fan based games of chrono trigger like prophets guile, where you play as magus.

I used temporal flux to change some things in chrono trigger. make harder bosses, make a debug room for viewing endings, etc.

It is a cool little program that i would suggest and hardcore CT fan to give a go

CC
12-11-2009, 08:06 PM
Certainly one of the highest on my list!

Shadow mage
12-14-2009, 03:22 PM
I used to use temporal flux and a few Chrono Trigger editing programs.

In fact, i remember last year i played prophets guile it was really well made.

shadowtheman
01-03-2010, 02:19 AM
It really doesnt. SE did a very good job of removing the fun of building your ideal team up. You know, cuz theres no leveling, weapon system is crap, 45 characters most of which are pointless, elemnt system is useless. I started it then somehow i dragged myself into finishing it. The game itself doesnt feel like a sequel to CT but more like a spin-off.

Chrono cross wasn't the true sequal to Chrono trigger, Chrono trigger radical dreamers was. [Only registered and activated users can see links]

It explains a lot and makes Chrono cross make a lot more sense. How ever I do have to agree they should of took out some of those characters for more plot.

yothenavigator
02-24-2010, 09:59 PM
I've played chrono trigger (& i got stuck in the prison break), i liked it but i don't think its the better RPG

topopoz
02-25-2010, 07:34 AM
I've played chrono trigger (& i got stuck in the prison break)

You've played nothing....

Neo Xzhan
02-25-2010, 08:20 AM
There will never be a best RPG ever, because opinions excist.

CC
02-25-2010, 09:12 AM
There will never be a best RPG ever, because opinions excist.

That's right. While one person might find a certain game to be the best, another would find it repulsive. It all depends on point of view.

Harkus
02-25-2010, 12:09 PM
I bought a couple of days ago actually. 10 on DS, how could I resist? Anyway, haven't played much so far, I'm in some castle where monsters are disguising themselves as humans. I don't know what to do though. Good game so far.

yothenavigator
02-25-2010, 12:10 PM
Hey, C3NT3RCOR3! what the heck onion kid means?

Darth Revan
02-26-2010, 07:56 AM
There will never be a best RPG ever, because opinions excist.

Agreed. Remember what one person considers to be the 'bestest evah', may not always be what another considers the same.


Hey, C3NT3RCOR3! what the heck onion kid means?

Taken from HERE
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Onion Knight
Appearances: FF3, FF Tactics
Aliases: None

The Onion Knight originated in FF3 as the base class; it had no abilities and could equip only the absolute worst or absolute best equipment. However, it has since evolved to a very specialty class which requires a whole lot of leveling up, but once that's done, its stats and abilities can rise above most others.

CC
02-26-2010, 09:12 AM
Hey, C3NT3RCOR3! what the heck onion kid means?

Umm . . . do I know you? At any rate . . . hi.

:/

TheGiftedOne
02-26-2010, 08:51 PM
Final Fantasy is better than chrono trigger, to me at least. Maybe its because I played Final Fantasy first.

CC
02-26-2010, 10:39 PM
Final Fantasy is better than chrono trigger, to me at least. Maybe its because I played Final Fantasy first.

That's nice.

Darth Revan
02-27-2010, 12:18 AM
Final Fantasy is better than chrono trigger, to me at least. Maybe its because I played Final Fantasy first.

Have you played Chrono Trigger, or is your statement based on a natural bias to anything not Final Fantasy?

dragonstar13
07-04-2010, 01:49 AM
I really enjoy Chrono Trigger, even now. The story was a lot of fun, but had plenty of dramatic and dark elements. It's still one of my favorite games, and I like to play it when I have nothing else to play. For me, the music got me into it originally. Schala's theme is one of my favorite songs. The battle system is STILL my favorite even to today. I have been hoping to see an advance version of the CT battle system, since I really enjoy the active turn base control, over the wait one. My favorite part though, are the combos. I never tire of watching Twister and Beast Toss. The story I again, found to be fun to play.
I consider it to be one of my favorites, but I also have other games which I really love too. So it's hard to decide which one is the absolute best.

Harkus
07-04-2010, 06:54 AM
Okay, I'm at the beginning of the game in the church and i'm dont know what to do, help!

Byrd
07-04-2010, 06:59 PM
PLAY THE PIANO MAN! BUST OUT SOME TUNES!

Harkus
07-05-2010, 03:29 PM
saaaaafe :D will do.

anthonyparco
07-28-2010, 05:57 AM
I've taken Chrono Trigger apart and have to say assessing all the aspects of an rpg, I have to say it is in the top 3 of all time. In my opinion, I put it behind FF6 and FF9, but I can easily move these 3 titles around they are that good in terms of story, gameplay and all around fun. Extremely hard to give the top spot to just one game.

Roywood
08-22-2010, 12:09 PM
I enjoyed Chrono Trigger so much. It's one of my favourite games of all time, but I don't dare to say that it's the best RPG ever.

Hotspot
09-06-2010, 01:41 AM
I don't agree, but I do think it's a really great game. I actually prefer Chrono Cross though DUN DUN DUN *girl screams*
I really like the mysteriousness that it has, the music is great as well as the graphics.

However my favorite rpg is suikoden.

solidsnake999
11-01-2010, 07:18 PM
CT is the greatest RPG of all time (the second one is FF VI), when i played on the PSX (after finishing FF VII and Suikoden 2) it blowed my mind, the music, the characters, the story, everithing is awesome. A real masterpiece:D

Esura
01-09-2011, 12:11 AM
Chrono Trigger is probably one of the most overhyped SNES era JRPG ever (along with FFVI)

Chrono Trigger was fun, but I'm laughing hard, coughing up my Four Lokos at the idea that Chrono Trigger is TEH greatest RPG of all time. Shit, FFVII blew my mind back then I don't think that its the second coming of Jesus Christ. Claiming one game is the greatest game in existence is quite funny imo. Take the rose-coloured nostalgia glasses off and you'll see. I use to think FFVII and Phantasy Star IV was the best freaking JRPGs ever, until I played them again.

CC
01-09-2011, 12:20 AM
Oh, come on! If someone holds a personal opinion that one game is their best game in existence, so be it. I will never understand anyone whose mind is blown by blocky emo characters in an equally emo environment in a story that is mediocre at best (aka FFVII) but I don't think it's funny; I just shrug and let it be.

peterbarmars
02-11-2011, 06:24 AM
Final Fantasy VI is the first RPG I have played in the Super Nintendo, and I am 100% content if it were your last. Seriously, I'm going to play this game on my deathbed, and I can give my praise to extremists.

ayumo
02-11-2011, 01:07 PM
the best one!!!I love it!!even If I HATE ALL RPG games(ff,Valkyr....etc),I love chrono trigger

KuroKage
02-11-2011, 08:09 PM
Wow! So much love for Chrono Trigger here. I think it's a bit easy game, at first time play I beat the game in 21:45 and defeat Lavos with no retry. (according to the time counter, at the last save before beating Lavos, so total is 22hrs)

xuu
02-16-2011, 01:20 PM
worthy of being deemed as a masterpiece imo

Inglorion55
02-17-2011, 01:31 PM
to many plot holes dealing with the time travel. explained to a friend one day about how much i felt that the time travel seemed to be done in the wrong direction, and that if it would have been done a different way, i would not have had any issue. apart from my severe issue with the time travel issues, everything else about the game was lots of fun.

also, my main issue w/ time travel in this game, was b/c of an instance in the very beggining dealing w/ the missing princess or queen, and how that whole event played out. it was something dealing w/ how it affected the "altered future" that set the precedent, for how it should have been the whole game, and the game did not stick by it, but rather seemed to change how effects in the past changed the future. time travel would have been fine if they did not change the way it worked after the first time travel scene, if it stayed on that cause/effect basis, i would have enjoyed the rest of the game more.

MastaM
02-23-2011, 02:40 PM
No.

Silvermistshadow
02-23-2011, 06:56 PM
to many plot holes dealing with the time travel. explained to a friend one day about how much i felt that the time travel seemed to be done in the wrong direction, and that if it would have been done a different way, i would not have had any issue. apart from my severe issue with the time travel issues, everything else about the game was lots of fun.

also, my main issue w/ time travel in this game, was b/c of an instance in the very beginning dealing w/ the missing princess or queen, and how that whole event played out. it was something dealing w/ how it affected the "altered future" that set the precedent, for how it should have been the whole game, and the game did not stick by it, but rather seemed to change how effects in the past changed the future. time travel would have been fine if they did not change the way it worked after the first time travel scene, if it stayed on that cause/effect basis, i would have enjoyed the rest of the game more.

What you said there actually implies that they were consistent. The first example was cause and effect, and the second, while you can call it effects in the past, they are causes in the future.

Or maybe my logic is flawed and I should stop now.

Amazingu
02-24-2011, 05:27 AM
I would probably call this my most favorite RPG (maybe even game in general) of all times, yes.

But hoooooo boy, does Xenoblade ever come close.

Inglorion55
02-24-2011, 09:00 AM
What you said there actually implies that they were consistent. The first example was cause and effect, and the second, while you can call it effects in the past, they are causes in the future.

Or maybe my logic is flawed and I should stop now.

to me, they switched up entirely how they had the cuase/effect worked from the first moment, which is why it bothered me.

marksmall
02-24-2011, 12:25 PM
I'm currently playing through this now on the DS, and it's good, but hasn't got me raving about it yet. Just got Frog and Ayla back, so I don't know if it's supposed to pick up later on

tijgarbelly
02-24-2011, 11:53 PM
Chrono Trigger is not the best rpg its the best game ever. I have played many RPGs, not all of them by any stretch but quite a few.

flacodoom
04-01-2011, 11:33 AM
Yes... IS THE BEST
and not for me... SUPER MARIO PRG is the best for my :)

and in the PC
TES3: Morrowind I'd was like six months playing it almost every day!

Black Wolf
04-16-2011, 04:05 PM
I can't say it's the best RPG, but I can say it's certainly the best I have ever played. It even tops Final Fantasy VII. It's games like Chrono Trigger that make me jealous of the generation that played SNES. I don't see how they didn't explode from the goodness in those days.

Tanis
08-12-2011, 08:02 AM
Nah, it's a classic - but I enjoy Chrono Cross more.

SeaKnightofEa
08-20-2011, 03:43 AM
Mario RPG was great. Who didn't love Geno? And Bowser as a mighty ally to do good? I liked Chrono Trigger, but I didn't know there were multiple endings and neither did I know you could get magus until a couple months ago. The game never really stuck to me as awesome. It was nice to play and was fun, but it felt lackluster to me in some ways as a game. Idk, maybe I was too young to understand Chrono Trigger enough to enjoy it a lot. Now if we start talking about Chrono Cross, oh man is that game fun and stuff.

Nostalgia gamer
08-20-2011, 08:24 AM
This is definitely high on the list of best games in my opinion.

Gameplay is superb with the pacing,the amount of worlds to explore and how you effect time is just so much fun that you can pick it up over and over and get so many different stuff.

I love exploring the prehistoria and 600 ad.

The music is also amazing as well:some fo the saddest pieces of music and most memorable leaving this warm feeling.

Chrono Trigger OST - Epilogue ~ To Good Friends - YouTube ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Its literally a lullaby and an amazing theme to end the game with a sort of bittersweet feeling.

To a relaxing theme like Chrono Trigger OST - Corridors of Time ~ World Map Theme 6 - YouTube ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

I absolutely love this theme and sometimes will sit and wait just so i can listen to it.

Chrono Trigger OST - The Day the World Revived - YouTube ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

To the saddest music i have seen in gaming along with dark world in ff6

Sealed Door: Chrono Trigger Music - YouTube ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

This game evokes a lot of feeling,i think more so than some other games.

I personally think the ds version is even better in chrono trigger because i think you got access to more endings making it have even higher replay value.

Mercenary Raven
08-20-2011, 12:38 PM
to me, they switched up entirely how they had the cuase/effect worked from the first moment, which is why it bothered me.
All the weirdness can be explained by "the entity affected it." You think about it, and if they didn't see Marle, they wouldn't have pissed off the guy (I forget his name) enough to be branded traitor and sent to the future and stop Lavos.

Zevinity
11-21-2011, 07:28 AM
I usually have trouble choosing favorites, but, when it comes to video games, Chrono Trigger, without a doubt, is my favorite video game of all time. It has a certain charm that I'm still not able to describe. I usually don't replay many games, but I probably replay Chrono Trigger once a year.

BasilCulex
11-22-2011, 07:33 PM
Chrono Trigger may be the best RPG, and if not, its up to the standards of FFVI and Super Mario RPG back than.

blitmeister
03-14-2012, 10:14 AM
one of the greats