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jacksparrow900
06-21-2012, 04:35 PM
I'm just sharing this it's not my edit.

So what the hell did I do this time? A lot more than I planned. I started working on this not long after I finished the temple remake. I did the sorting and preliminary work, but got stuck on a very important decision. The Concord Box Set was great for the previously unreleased tracks, but was otherwise riddled with problems. It was louder, which was good, but there seemed to be a lot of hiss and bad edits. Plus, some parts had altered mixes which hurt the feel for me. I first planned to combine the 1995 DCC release with the Concord set, using the best segments from each; a mash-up basically. It felt wierd to switch so much between sources, so I thought to just use my old edition and replace the bootleg-sourced cues with the Concord versions. I asked a few trustees for feedback on that idea. I never got a direct answer, so I can only assume they didn't like it. I reached a stalemate and couldn't figure out whether to lean more toward DCC or Concord, so I shelved the whole project for about a year and a half. During my recent communique with Dayv, I realized what to do... Two complete versions of the entire remake, Virtually identical in structure; one DCC-based, the other Concord-based.



DCC VERSION:

Contrary to my original idea, I didn't throw my original edition in here with some replaced cues. I went back to square one, compared the original DCC tracks inch-by-inch to the film audio, and made a new version. In doing so, I realized how much I missed the first time. The various issues have all been corrected.

Some edits from my old edition were perfect, and it would be stupid to do them again, so those were kept. They came from my WAV source, not the 128k mp3's that were posted. Aside from that, all DCC disc material came directly from the original CD rips, and was not just copied over. Many edits were remade from scratch, using the CD rips. Much more fine-tuning was done this time around, meaning that I fixed a lot of funky DCC edits and anomalies that I missed last time.

Any material taken from sources outside the DCC release was mastered to match the DCC volume and sound as closely as possible.
All source music (Cairo street music, etc.) is included here. It came from the DVD surround channels, so there are sound effects present. There is no dialogue, other than occasional crowd voices, and I did everything I could to reduce or remove the present sound effects.


Film version; An exact replica of the score's presentation in the movie.




CONCORD VERSION:

What were they doing... I couldn't believe how many bad edits were in this set. Some were also on the DCC set, so in those cases, they obviously just brightened the DCC masters and didn't pay attention.

I must say that when I started working with this version, it wasn't as bad as I thought. Everything that troubled me turned out to be fixable, and with everything fixed, I much prefer this version to the DCC version. Never thought that would happen.

This version was purely made from scratch. All film edits are newly made, and I fixed all the bad CD edits I heard. I did a lot of work to take out clicks and other wierd noises, and reduced the hiss in the spots where it bothered me. Hiss is simply part of this master, and I couldn't remove any more of it without hurting the feel. I did smooth it out between tracks to make it less ridiculous. Either I'm used to hearing it, or I removed enough of it, but I don't notice the hiss anymore.

I mentioned altered mixes before; this only happened in three spots. I replaced those portions (not whole tracks) with the DCC versions, which I mastered to match the surrounding Concord material. It took a lot of tricky editing and crossfades to make this happen. The Concord mixes of these are available as alternates in the music version.

The Desert Chase sequence has been restored to it's full length. The horrible Concord edit (which is actually a remaster of the 1981 album edit) served as the bulk of the track, with all the missing pieces snuck in from the DCC version. I like to think of myself as a humble fellow, but I'll allow myself this once - I kicked ass on this one. F U Concord!

I. Film Version (DCC) - [Only registered and activated users can see links]!7ggHURbI!C8Y30k...KDt3w_qvPQvAzU

II. Music Version (DCC) - [Only registered and activated users can see links]!W44AUICB!TUsRSq...752KnUz2lb7vME

III. Film Version (Concord) - [Only registered and activated users can see links]!rkQ0gIoI!TZj10U..._YnBlKntvMfi_g

IV. Music Version (Concord) - [Only registered and activated users can see links]!GkhBERCI!s35H5R...tdtjtW5QubElUY

pshipper
06-21-2012, 08:28 PM
Incredible! Thanks!

Robert Jordan
06-22-2012, 12:27 AM
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dekamaster2
06-22-2012, 02:01 AM
Thank you!

mirren
06-22-2012, 02:46 AM
Saweet! Thanks for both versions!

darth2602
06-22-2012, 03:10 AM
thanks so much

there are I and IV what avout II and III ?

jacksparrow900
06-22-2012, 07:19 AM
I'm trying to download those now

Anaximander
06-22-2012, 10:03 AM
wow thanks

Robye
06-22-2012, 11:42 AM
These are really great. Thanks.

Mike Flaherty
06-22-2012, 12:18 PM
Thanks for this.

Anaximander
06-22-2012, 12:24 PM
i am listening to both side by side and i have to say, i slightly prefer the concord edit. if only the box set had presented it this way. excellent work!

i can't wait for a last crusade definitive edition

mallachain
06-22-2012, 03:06 PM
Thanks!

octagonproplex
06-22-2012, 03:33 PM
Thanks!

octagonproplex
06-22-2012, 04:54 PM
Wait, so who assembled this again?

And there's still two middle portions coming (II & III) - is that correct?

And, from part I. Film Version (DCC), what is the 9:50 WAV version of track 8 "Chaos & Baskets - Marion's Death - The Tavern"? Because there's also an 5:10 mp3 version of track 8 already included within bundle I. Is the WAV version an "alt version"?

It's all golden, I'm just trying to clarify so I can lable everything as accurately as possible.

Thanks!:)

jacksparrow900
06-22-2012, 05:02 PM
yes part II and III will still be coming once it finish downloading. the 9 :50 track is actually my edit using his 5:10 track and the marketplace source music but the tavern music is not from his source music it's a file I piece together using the dvd and trying to elminate any vocals. In the film the two source cues segue into the score. I didn't realize it was in the file folder for the DCC FILM VERSION.

octagonproplex
06-22-2012, 06:12 PM
Okay excellent!

Do you happen to know what moniker the original editor of this share goes by? I like to sometimes put that kind of source information into the track property comments, or even integrate it into the name of the album (e.i. ''Raiders Of The Lost Ark [jacksparrow900 Definitive Edition]''), just so I'm able to further distiguish it from any other fanmade versions of the score I might acquire.

If not, I'll just call it the "jacksparrow900 Definitive Edition", merely for my own convenience. At least that way I'll have an inkling of where I originally got it from.

At any rate, the 9:50 version of track 8 is indeed the "jacksparrow900 Edit", so I can lable that appropriately. Even though you maybe didn't intend on sharing it, I thank you for it just the same!:)

Not a big deal at all, I'm just OCD like that. Thanks again!:)

jacksparrow900
06-22-2012, 06:18 PM
his name is Dan. I think that you can't get any closer to the complete score than this edition.

octagonproplex
06-22-2012, 06:37 PM
Haha, "Dan" - that's not a very elaborate name, but so be it! lol! :)

Thanks JS900!:)



...and, of course, thanks to the ever elusive "Dan" as well!

jacksparrow900
06-22-2012, 06:39 PM
his last name is Dolan

DeakStarkiller
06-22-2012, 06:51 PM
Thanks for this! Will definitely give it a listen!

octagonproplex
06-22-2012, 07:52 PM
his last name is Dolan

Please don't feel obligated to indulge me any further. I promise, whatever the case, this will be the last of my pestering. The last thing I want to be is a nag, so apologies up-front, but...

Is "Dan Dolan" his name for real? Do you know him personally or does he just not mind putting his name out there - or both?

Of course, there is no more truthful answer that exist in the universe than "I don't know". Totally valid response. Also "shut-up" does well in a pinch too!

Sorry, but for some stupid reason you've got me intrigued my this magician. I don't really even know why, to tell you the truth. It's not like I'm gonna go track him down and kiss his hand or something, lol! Curiosity is just peaked out of sheer boredom, I'm quite sure. I think maybe it's just the cryptic nature of the whole thing, lol.

Anyway, if you're tired of putting up with my nonsense and would rather skip coddling my every whim, I'll understand.

I kinda feel myself becoming a nuisance with all my insatiable questions of absolutely no consequence. Just infer I calm down and I shall do so!

Or ignoring me is a completely cool option as well, I'll take the hint. lol! :)

Havenwood
06-22-2012, 08:11 PM
Thank so much ! !
Incredible work!

jacksparrow900
06-22-2012, 08:46 PM
yes that is his real name and I also helped him with this edition I gave him some tracks that he didn't know existed like the pre concord boot.

octagonproplex
06-22-2012, 09:34 PM
yes that is his real name and I also helped him with this edition I gave him some tracks that he didn't know existed like the pre concord boot.

Okay cool.

I hope I haven't been too much of a bug by continually pressing you over such trivial frivolity.

Thanks for quenching my inquisitiveness, you're a prince!:)

jacksparrow900
06-23-2012, 08:39 AM
not a problem. but I feel that who needs another release after this one. Part II and Part III will be coming it's just taking so long to download.

steffromuk
06-24-2012, 12:33 PM
Damn! you're a freak and I love you!!! thanks for being a fanatic!

jacksparrow900
06-24-2012, 02:17 PM
I just added parts II and III

Cratinus
06-24-2012, 02:31 PM
Your efforts are much appreciated on this massively awesome share, jacksparrow900! Cheers!

Robert Jordan
06-24-2012, 05:30 PM
I just added parts II and III

I'm "a little bit" lost :what are exactly those parts II and III compared to parts I and IV ?

jacksparrow900
06-24-2012, 05:34 PM
part II is the complete score of raiders without the film edits using the DCC version, part III is the film version using the concord disc.

Robert Jordan
06-24-2012, 05:37 PM
part II is the complete score of raiders without the film edits using the DCC version, part III is the film version using the concord disc.

Thanks !

xphile7777
06-27-2012, 03:31 AM
Thanks! :)

mirren
06-27-2012, 02:14 PM
More Raiders goodness! Thanks again jacksparrow for II & III.

xphile7777
06-27-2012, 11:08 PM
And thanks to the original uploader! :)

cropper
09-03-2012, 11:52 AM
Brill, any that the "last Crusade" was done this way?

scorpioman1974
09-05-2012, 05:12 PM
This is the kind of soundtrack I wish they would put out instead of the tiny drops of music soundtracks we get. I love to hear all the track, even the small bits. It adds to the texture of the soundtrack album.

Jediknight12
09-05-2012, 07:17 PM
I think the real reason that Concord Records edition of Raiders soundtrack they didn't put the DCC Raiders "Desert Chase" on the Disc because it simply wouldn't fit because its 1 minute longer than the one on the 1981/1008 album I tried it myself with a CD-R disc and instead of using the 1981 version use the 1995 one it didn't fit on one Disc

Petros
11-22-2012, 04:39 AM
Many thanks!

Rocklegend2000
11-22-2012, 06:03 AM
Are these all mp3īs.........

G
11-22-2012, 08:01 AM
thank

max_stein
07-14-2013, 03:25 PM
THANK YOU

Misteretc
07-14-2013, 03:32 PM
Thanks!

SUPERVENOM
07-14-2013, 04:12 PM
the 2 and 3 third links dont work for me little help please.....:-(

cropper
07-15-2013, 04:20 AM
This is brill!

castas
08-09-2013, 03:45 PM
Thank you

scaloutte
08-09-2013, 05:15 PM
thank tou for liner 1 and 4

DevilMayCry2
10-03-2013, 02:38 PM
Can re-upload the DCC music version and Concord Film Version? The links are dead and still missing the V.) Relics & Artifacts, VI) Re-recordings....

overlord17
10-04-2013, 12:03 AM
Thank you very much for all your work!

Gwinrodel
10-04-2013, 02:16 AM
Thanks mate!
Seem to be a problem with third link (Fists concord portion). Can it be fixed? I'd appreciate very much!

Enigma1138
10-06-2013, 03:19 PM
Thanks!

cosuna
10-07-2013, 02:06 AM
can anyone upload parts 2 and 3 please?

DevilMayCry2
12-31-2013, 08:46 PM
Reupload all the files... the FBI shutdown Hotfile, "Try to see your favorite TV or movie in more legal platforms... "

Upload to other server... please...

spike2010
01-25-2014, 07:33 AM
Is the missing piece of music that was only on the DCC vinyl LP included?

miggyb
03-17-2014, 06:54 AM
Can anyone re-upload this?

dave101017
03-19-2014, 10:56 AM
This does sound like an interesting project. I'd like to hear it too.

postfan
03-19-2014, 03:37 PM
Could someone please reupload?

Herr Salat
03-22-2014, 08:33 PM
Dan's Definitive Edition, posted by jacksparrow900. Re-upload:

I. Film Version (DCC) - [Only registered and activated users can see links]!7ggHURbI!C8Y30kteaSMboy5oQJg10te8TRMVZKDt3w_qvPQ vAzU

II. Music Version (DCC) - [Only registered and activated users can see links]!W44AUICB!TUsRSqjaucGOIrEfIMLfqXT-WRIg2752KnUz2lb7vME

III. Film Version (Concord) - [Only registered and activated users can see links]!rkQ0gIoI!TZj10UPuNonqIDQR1qvH8NG-BChAO_YnBlKntvMfi_g

IV. Music Version (Concord) - [Only registered and activated users can see links]!GkhBERCI!s35H5RUOzxHaordt4O7zNxwyQz0DOtdtjtW5Qub ElUY

miggyb
03-23-2014, 08:23 AM
Fantastic!!! Thank you Herr Salat.

So I guess "Music Version" is the soundtrack album arrangement (with bad edits fixed) while "Film Version" is as heard in the film (with bad edits fixed), right? Which version is best in terms of overall seamlessness/sound quality?

Kaolin
03-23-2014, 08:32 AM
Thanks.

miggyb
03-23-2014, 10:03 AM
Oops, never mind, just read some of the previous posts in this thread.

Is the Temple Of Doom Definitive Edition previously posted in this forum done by the same person?

janjakano
03-23-2014, 11:06 AM
thanks!!

2fussy
05-19-2014, 04:23 AM
Many thanks. This is a wonderful effort indeed to one of my favourite scores of all time.
I just wish one of the specialty labels would release this, in complete form and get it right!

DoutorHouse
01-21-2015, 12:35 PM
Thanks for this! Anyone has the other two discs, called V.) Relics & Artifacts and VI.) Re-Recordings?

milesgloriosus
01-21-2015, 02:07 PM
Muchas gracias Herr Salat.

skykike
01-21-2015, 05:07 PM
Excellent. Thanks!!

Dr.Zachary
01-21-2015, 10:24 PM
I'm glad I discovered this thread. Amazing!

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

DevilMayCry2
04-04-2015, 02:05 PM
Can someone upload V.) Relics & Artifacts and VI.) Re-Recordings? Please :)

2fussy
04-20-2015, 02:08 AM
Dan's Definitive Edition, posted by jacksparrow900. Re-upload:

I. Film Version (DCC) - [Only registered and activated users can see links]!7ggHURbI!C8Y30kteaSMboy5oQJg10te8TRMVZKDt3w_qvPQ vAzU

II. Music Version (DCC) - [Only registered and activated users can see links]!W44AUICB!TUsRSqjaucGOIrEfIMLfqXT-WRIg2752KnUz2lb7vME

III. Film Version (Concord) - [Only registered and activated users can see links]!rkQ0gIoI!TZj10UPuNonqIDQR1qvH8NG-BChAO_YnBlKntvMfi_g

IV. Music Version (Concord) - [Only registered and activated users can see links]!GkhBERCI!s35H5RUOzxHaordt4O7zNxwyQz0DOtdtjtW5Qub ElUY

Any chance these are available in flac. I absolutely love the film edit of the end credits. Bravo!

WillDekkard
04-20-2015, 11:18 PM
Thank-you for the Re-Up! It is very appreciated. It was John Williams, his music that first drew me to the music of the movies. He is a real genius that continues to tug at my heart strings when I listen to his music!

kane_nr2
08-12-2018, 10:12 PM
Thank you jacksparrow900, and Herr Salat for providing re-uploads.

srupert
04-05-2019, 08:04 AM
Thanks to Dan for this fan-edit; jacksparrow900 for the upload; and Herr Salat for the re-upload!